wiring?

[A C]

can I have regular romax run from inside my
house to a romax connector on the back side
of a weather proof box,I want to have a outside
receptacle,it seems there is regular nm romax
run to the outside lights,is this the same?the weather proof box
would be flush with my house siding.i suppose
i could silicone it as well,thankyou in advance.

 

[Fred]

Should be fine as long as the romex isn't exposed.

Fred

 

[A C]

there is most likely a chance rain water will go
behind the box,will that be ok?,when you say
exposed do you mean to water?

 

[[email protected]]

there is most likely a chance rain water will go
behind the box,will that be ok?,when you say
exposed do you mean to water?

I would worry a lot more about the water getting into the house than
it getting into the box..
Most inspectors are OK with Romex serving a box mounted directly on an
outside wall, as long as the wire goes straight into the box from
inside.
If it is running down the outside of the wall, even in conduit, it
needs to be a wet location wire.
You do need to caulk around the box to stop water intrusion,

 

[A C]

thats true water in the outside wall,the receptacle i need is for a
generator,and ive
heard about outside wires,this wire would need to be 10awg,thats a big
hole.

 

[ehsjr]

can I have regular romax run from inside my
house to a romax connector on the back side
of a weather proof box,I want to have a outside
receptacle,it seems there is regular nm romax
run to the outside lights,is this the same?the weather proof box
would be flush with my house siding.i suppose
i could silicone it as well,thankyou in advance.

Here's a tip:

Wall
| |
Box | |
----| |
| | /
| |/ < Hole at downward angle
| /|
| / |
| | |
----| |
| |

Since the sheathing may be only ~ 1/2" thick, this is not
a "cure-all". You still need to caulk the hole. But
exterior wall penetrations should always be made at a
downward angle.

Ed

 

[Albert Albert]

nice trick Ed thankyou,,my main concern was that the inside wire/used
outside, would get wet and may be
exposed to weather and rot away.I have seen
romax inside pvc conduit outside with romax.
its been there many years,with no damage.
I can see underground being trouble.If a person
wanted to install a receptacle in a second floor bedroom and had to run
pvc conduit from
basement out and up to say an air conditioner
receptacle that is back inside,what would work
for that?

 

[Pop]

:A C wrote:
: > can I have regular romax run from inside my
: > house to a romax connector on the back side
: > of a weather proof box,I want to have a outside
: > receptacle,it seems there is regular nm romax
: > run to the outside lights,is this the same?the weather proof
box
: > would be flush with my house siding.i suppose
: > i could silicone it as well,thankyou in advance.
: >
:
: Here's a tip:
:
: Wall
: | |
: Box | |
: ----| |
: | | /
: | |/ < Hole at downward angle
: | /|
: | / |
: | | |
: ----| |
: | |
:
: Since the sheathing may be only ~ 1/2" thick, this is not
: a "cure-all". You still need to caulk the hole. But
: exterior wall penetrations should always be made at a
: downward angle.
:
: Ed

Damn! I KNEW I forgot something! Next spring; too cold now!

<g>
Pop

 

[daestrom]

I would worry a lot more about the water getting into the house than
it getting into the box..
Most inspectors are OK with Romex serving a box mounted directly on an
outside wall, as long as the wire goes straight into the box from
inside.
If it is running down the outside of the wall, even in conduit, it
needs to be a wet location wire.
You do need to caulk around the box to stop water intrusion,

Another 'trick' I've learned is to drill a hole in the bottom side of the
box. Unless you think water is going to get up that high. But in that case
you have flooding damage anyway. Point is, if any water *does* find it's
way into the box, you would prefer it find a way out again before it fills
up the box.

One job I worked had a problem with water running down inside the conduit
and accumulating in the box, eventually filling up to the terminals and
started some nasty corrosion problems and grounds.

Although I suppose this ruins the box's 'waterproof' rating, I don't think
all outside outlets/fixtures have to be 'waterproof', just 'weatherproof'.

daestrom

 

[Albert Albert]

My problem was with the inside wire/romax
running outside to the back of the box.It would
run straight into the box from cellar,seems like its outside.But i guess
thats ok,

 

[ehsjr]

nice trick Ed thankyou,,my main concern was that the inside wire/used
outside, would get wet and may be
exposed to weather and rot away.I have seen
romax inside pvc conduit outside with romax.
its been there many years,with no damage.
I can see underground being trouble.If a person
wanted to install a receptacle in a second floor bedroom and had to run
pvc conduit from
basement out and up to say an air conditioner
receptacle that is back inside,what would work
for that?

THHN. (That's the wire that is inside the Romex
sheathing.) Or just put romex in the conduit
if that's what you have. The PVC provides the
necessary protection.

You also might want to consider using liguidtight
flexible nonmetallic conduit, like this:
http://www.carlon.com/Brochures/7B1.pdf

Ed

 

[Roy Q.T.]

Damn Dude with a Name like Kilovolt [is it?} one would think you know
these things };-) Only Residential Considerations Apply.

[about 120vac 15-20A]

Of Course you can a make the run with NM Multiple Conductor Cable
(Romex™ or UF) the Idea Is: it has to be kept safe from Physical
Damage either by the Bldg. Structure, Employing Aditional Conduit &
underground depth quidelines or Adequate Protection through-out the
Installation if you are running a long way from the Bldg.
Since you are not going Underground; Your Weather Proofing Scheme is
Sound Enough an Installaio...Oh! Plus: Any Outlet on your Outside Wall
must be GFCI Protected.

" Happy Holidays to You All "

Roy Q.T.
Urban Technician
[I don't make em, I just fix em]

 

[A C]

thankyou,,the name is kilavolt,,not kilovolt...
thanks again