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  1. John Larkin

    John Larkin Guest

  2. netstumbler

  3. Joerg

    Joerg Guest

    Hello John,

    Well, it did reach from SF to Sacramento. I guess Marconi and Hertz
    would consider the test successful ...

    Regards, Joerg
  4. John Larkin

    John Larkin Guest

    Actually, it seems to be working very well.

  5. hi John, netstumbler is a nice little WiFi monitoring application

  6. John Larkin

    John Larkin Guest

    What's it do?

    I'm at a hotel in the middle of nowhere south of Boston, and XP claims
    there are nine free wifi's in range. Everything works great but
    Thunderbird, something having to do with smtp not working through
    other isp's. Webmail is a nuisance.

    I thought maybe you were calling *me* a netstumbler. Well, actually, I
    did have a bunch to drink at the wedding in New Hampshire. It was a
    nice, traditional Irish Catholic Filipino Jewish ceremony, and by now
    I must be related to a third of the population of the planet. Those
    crazy Irish will marry anybody.

  7. Jim Thompson

    Jim Thompson Guest

    Last one of those I went to the priest got drunk and rowdy ;-)

    I've only run onto a single hotel, in Santa Barbara, which offered
    true Internet access... I could even use Agent to read news.

    Since then all I seem to find is web connection CRAP.

    I'm considering renewing my pager service. I could send and receive
    E-mail from that... a few trivial "son-brew" executables handled
    everything so it went thru my PC whether in- or out-bound.

    ...Jim Thompson
  8. John Miles

    John Miles Guest

    It's not Thunderbird's fault per se. ISPs nowadays don't let you use
    their outgoing mail servers unless they're confident that you're
    actually a customer of theirs, either by having logged into your POP3
    account first, and/or by actually being on their subnet. If you're
    using somebody else's WiFi node at random, you're not on your own ISP's
    subnet, so they assume you're a bad guy trying to use their SMTP server
    as a spam relay. Unfortunate but necessary.

    Solutions are to use webmail (which I agree isn't ideal) or, preferably,
    to establish a VPN connection to your box back home. Once you jump
    through the latter hoop, you can use a virtual desktop client to
    actually work on your machine at home. That's especially nice because
    you don't end up with some of your mail being stuck on your laptop while
    on the road.

    -- john
  9. Jim Thompson

    Jim Thompson Guest

    What is the most desirable/stable/secure way/program to establish
    connection thru your home box?

    That gets my attention, at least once a month I'm stuck in some hotel,
    or at a clients site, and can't conveniently read my E-mail.

    ...Jim Thompson
  10. John Larkin

    John Larkin Guest

    I have a newish Sony Vaio (very nice, 5 lbs, 4 hour battery life,
    about $1400) with XP and wifi. It seems to get good, fast internet
    connections in lots of places. It was free on the Cornell campus, free
    here at the Radisson hotel, and looks to be available at most airports
    for $6 or something like that. Once I select a wifi net, I can shut
    down the PC, power up later, and I'm still online. I'm impressed that
    this just seems to work... simpler than setting up my home DSL.

    It's so hot and humid here, I'll just stay in and do work until
    dinnertime... Legal Seafoods in Boston.

    They have Dunkin Donuts here, one about every 3/4 of a mile. I think
    the entire population of Massachusetts passes through a DD about three
    times per day. "Gimme a regula" apparently means "coffee with cream
    and sugar" I think. The latte is excellent (but you have to specify
    "hot", and then they look at you funny) and the Boston Cream donut is
    superb. Most people use the drive-thru for some reason.

  11. ....
    Secure Shell, aka "SSH". It can be used as a tunnel for
    other protocols, such as VNC. For Windows, the Cygwin
    port of OpenSSH works pretty well. On Linux and other
    Unixen, it works great. The virtue of an SSH tunnel is that
    you need only open one port into your firewall, and SSH
    itself is quite secure. It can be a PITA to setup, though,
    so I would suggest drafting your son to get it going.
  12. Jim Thompson

    Jim Thompson Guest

    On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 11:21:52 -0700, John Larkin

    I have an older Vaio with Win2K
    Good choice. I like that restaurant.
    You had a "frap" yet? My first major mistake in Massachusetts, almost
    50 years ago, was to order a "milk shake"... that's what I got, milk
    "shaken" with chocolate flavoring... no ice cream :-(

    ...Jim Thompson
  13. Insufficient voltage: message returned to sender.

  14. ROFL need to dry the keyboard, again

  15. John Miles

    John Miles Guest

    Depends on a lot of things, which is why I used the term "hoop." It is
    trivial to set up a VPN client on any modern OS (google 'VPN' and
    whatever OS you're using), but I've never had to set up a VPN server,
    and can't say what's involved. It's safe to say you'll need to start
    with a PC or a VPN router that has a static IP address, or one that's
    otherwise accessible through some sort of dynamic DNS.

    As far as remote desktop operation goes, WinXP can act as a remote
    desktop host out of the box. I don't believe Win2K will do so without
    paying for a third-party package or using the GNU equivalent. The MS
    site has a free client that will let you connect to a WinXP machine from
    a machine running anything from Win98 on up (google "remote desktop
    client".) This stuff works VERY well, but you will have to do some
    searching to understand how to make it all happen in your specific case.

    -- jm
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