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  1. David Rouse

    David Rouse Guest

     
  2. Baphomet

    Baphomet Guest

    I'm anxiously waiting for the punch line ;-)
     
  3. John Fortier

    John Fortier Guest

    Maybe the punch line is that corporations have no reason for acting as they
    do!

    This is so far off topic that it's coming back again!

    John
     
  4. Baphomet

    Baphomet Guest

    :)
     
  5. David Rouse wrote:

    Re: Why corporations act like they do
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    Because they are run by and for the greedy rich who use them to
    hide and deny their crimes, keeping their winnings, and foisting
    their losses off on the rest of us in bankruptcy, by claiming the
    corporation is an "entity". They win, but only the rest of us lose
    in their name!

    -Steve
     
  6. John Fortier

    John Fortier Guest

    I run a small corporation (very small) and I'm neither greedy nor
    particularly rich.

    As with all groups made up of people, there are good corporations and bad
    corporations. Recently, we've seen some of the worst exposed and their
    officers punished. Not by due process of law, which is sadly lacking in the
    tooth department in the case of such activities, but by having their
    incompetence, their criminality and their ineptitude exposed to their peers
    and the public at large.

    But just because an organisation is a corporation, it isn't automatically
    evil. The corporations that hit the headlines, Enron, Global Crossing et al
    became infamous because their greed and incompetence reached epic
    proportions and eventually they were no longer able to hide behind "creative
    accounting". Not all corporations are like these, and, face it, the
    alternative is socialism, and we've seen how well that works!

    I'm not defending the activities of some corporations, whose treatment of
    their employees, their customers and their stockholders is little short of
    criminal, and often crosses the line into criminality, but don't tar all
    corporations with the same brush.

    Actually, much of the behaviour seen in corporate life, so well documented
    by Scott Adams, can be explained by the Peter Principle. Individuals are
    promoted until they reach their level of incompetence and stay there. Why
    don't their bosses know they are incompetent? Well, how did their bosses
    get to their level in the corporate hierarchy?

    John
     
  7. John Larkin

    John Larkin Guest


    YESSS!

    Gosh Steve, I love it when you talk dirty.

    John
     
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    Then your lack of success makes you necessarily an exception to all
    the vicious abusive things you'd LIKE to do to the rest of us if
    only you were successful.

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    It strictly serves the enrichment of its owners over everyone else
    on earth by any means it can get away with, this totally fulfills
    the exact description of Ultimate Evil!

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    They simply made mistakes and got caught doing something which they
    failed to first make legal for corporations to do by bribery and
    manipulation of representative government.

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    No, actually, you haven't, you keep asserting without example or
    any good faith showing, that Russia/China are somehow "communist",
    when they quite obviously violate the VERY FIRST CONDITIONS THAT
    ARE ABSOLUTELY PREREQUISITE FOR A COMMUNISM, an entire and complete
    elimination of the rich class!!! Both Soviet Russia AND China serve(d)
    a Plutocratic party of modern-day feudalistic nobles whom the slaves
    at the bottom serve and enrich!

    In your quest to be disingenuous about Communism, you are willing to
    take both those rich castes TRUE at their LIE to their own people and
    pretend that what they offer actually IS Communism, which you KNOW
    is and must be a lie, a joke between you and the rich Chinese and
    former Russian Politburo, which was and IS merely used to delude
    their serf-classes into thinking that they cannot do ANY better
    than to be enslaved by SOME more advantaged group, and when you
    know full well this is a LIE which you perpetuate MERELY because you
    wish to FINALLY BE THAT GROUP HERE!!

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    ALL corporations are the essence of the abuse of feudalism, complete
    with enslavement, and the divine right of the kings/nobility.

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    The book was much better, but you have to know what a truly sane
    and just society looks and feels like before you can properly judge
    this one.

    In a sane and just society:

    1) No one is without a home they own, free and clear, and which they
    inherit by the divine right of being a member of the chief species
    of this planet. No one can take it from them, no matter what they do.
    They cannot sell it, but they can trade it straight across for another
    home if both owners agree.

    2) Everyone works a minimum number of hours aweek, a number set by
    Majority Democracy, and if they do not, they cannot obtain food of
    any kind from any source but eating bugs. Work is guaranteed, if
    you want work, and report for it, the society will find it and pay
    you for it. This also pays for all consumable supplies and medical
    care, utilities, and transportation.

    3) No one is paid more per hour than anyone else for any work that
    the Democratic Majority decides to authorize. and No other work CAN
    be paid. Extra-minimum labor hours can be used to buy consumer items
    above and beyond free food and consumables. You can work as many
    additional labor hours as you wish for these. You order them and the
    order for them generates the order for the labor to be authorized
    and paid. The economy makes what people want only as fast as they
    want to work for it.

    4) Savings no longer exists, loans are no longer necessary, business
    no longer exists. Retirement is State funded.

    Used items can only be traded for each other, straight across, money
    doesn't exist and cannot be used to buy used items. People who connive
    to become "rich" or somehow advantaged by trade in used items are
    punished, or barred from trade altogether.

    5) NO one is permitted to seek advantage over others, they are ONLY
    allowed to seek improvement of their skills and fulfillment in their
    hobby activities.

    NO MORE BULLYING OF ANY KIND IN SOCIETY!!

    -Steve
     
  9. John Fortier

    John Fortier Guest

    Do you have an off switch?
     
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  11. John Fortier

    John Fortier Guest

    OK

    John
     
  12. John Fields

    John Fields Guest

    ---
    Hey, dumbass, if you knew anything about conservation of bandwidth you'd
    realize that's it's customary to trim a monstrous post to the minimum
    needed to convey meaning.

    Actually, if you were concerned about conservation of banwidth at all,
    you'd just stop posting, since there is really nothing worthwhile to be
    gleaned, even, from your trash.
     
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