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who wants to be a "recording" engineer?

Discussion in 'Electronic Design' started by martin griffith, Apr 20, 2005.

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  1. Some peoples attitude to this side of engineering, is quite
    "interesting".

    I picked this "plum" from rec.audio.pro
    Are we not lucky here?



    martin

    After the first death, there is no other.
    (Dylan Thomas)
     
  2. John Larkin

    John Larkin Guest

    In engineering-centric companies, like Agilent or Tek, the engineers
    are at the top of the food chain. In more science-oriented settings,
    analytical chemistry or medical stuff, engineers are way down the
    heirarchy. It's similar in software: if you're a programmer for
    Google, you're hip; if you maintain patient records software in a
    hospital, the MDs are the superstars so they stick you in a windowless
    hovel in the basement and pretend you don't exist.

    Engineers who are not superstars develop coping mechanisms with
    various degrees of disfunctionality.

    Somebody should tell senior EE students about stuff like this.

    John
     
  3. Al

    Al Guest

    A lot of it is just not being awake.

    As a young mechanical engineer, I should have
    known enough not to work for a company called
    Westinghouse ELECTRIC Corporation.
     

  4. I would just smile and tell them to piss off, that I do not waste my
    time on primadonas as I walked out the door.
     
  5. Pooh Bear

    Pooh Bear Guest

    I'd tell anyone feeding me such shit to go f**k themselves actually.

    Classic 'oily rag' syndrome. Popular in the UK where 'engineers' are considered to
    be the same as technicians or mechanics. Class prejudice rools OK.....


    Graham
     
  6. Pooh Bear

    Pooh Bear Guest

    Let's face it. They won't be doing much without you !


    Graham
     

  7. That's the whole idea. Let them run the board themselves and see if
    they can even make a recording, let alone a usable master. The hourly
    rate goes up when you have to redo it. Of course, if its your equipment
    they won't be doing anything.
     
  8. Yes, but this probably has something to do with all those people calling
    themselves "engineers" that don't do much more then wave an oily rag.
    With all due respect to "sound engineers", they are indeed at the
    equivalent level of technicians and mechanics. Usually, less as most
    real technicians and mechanics go through recognised apprenticeships
    with formal qualifications (e.g. City and Guilds, ONC, HNC). Just about
    anyone twiddling faders on a desk calls themselves a "sound engineer".

    Kevin Aylward

    http://www.anasoft.co.uk
    SuperSpice, a very affordable Mixed-Mode
    Windows Simulator with Schematic Capture,
    Waveform Display, FFT's and Filter Design.
     
  9. who wants to be a "recording" engineer?

    Lotsa people, apparently. Australia graduates about 1000 recording
    engineers a year, in a country where there are maybe 30 jobs a year.
    Go figure what will happen if you tell them to "shove it".
     
  10. Genome

    Genome Guest

    Yus..... Might have something to do with Kylie Minogue and Olivia Newton
    John.

    Slurpppppp

    DNA
     
  11. _Graduate_ recording engineer? What will they think of next?
     
  12. Pooh Bear

    Pooh Bear Guest

    That's not my experience Kevin. At least not at the level where you're
    dealing with a symphony orchestra.

    One of the most intelligent men ( in *every respect * ) I ever met was a
    sound recordist.

    I know where you're coming from. Such guys *don't* mix gold and platinum
    discs though.


    Graham
     
  13. Pooh Bear

    Pooh Bear Guest

    Ahhhh - so the trend to 'overeducate' with disregard to actual job
    opportunities isn't confined to the UK then ? I could tell you some
    tales straight from the horse's ( ummm lecturer's ) mouth .........


    Graham
     
  14. Pooh Bear

    Pooh Bear Guest

    How time has passed !

    I did a gig once at Borehamwood's Civic Hall where I met a 16 yo Sonja
    Christina ( Curved Air ). I met her later when she was about 30 - she'd
    visibly aged ( but was still v. attractive ) ! Rock 'n Roll can do that to
    you.


    Graham
     
  15. Pooh Bear

    Pooh Bear Guest

    The Germans have been doing it for decades with their 'Tonmeister'
    courses.

    At least the graduates have a small possibility of a related job
    opportunity - unlike some UK graduate courses I could mention.


    Grahaam
     
  16. But I am not specifically discussing those at that level, I am
    discussing "all those people that call themselves sound engineers". In
    electronic engineering, you really don't get many claiming that who do
    not at least have some formal qualification. In sound, there are
    millions of the little buggers that all *claim* to be a "sound
    engineer".
    This is not about intelligence. Its about educational level, and
    training.
    Probabbly, not. Why do you propose this is the case?

    Kevin Aylward

    http://www.anasoft.co.uk
    SuperSpice, a very affordable Mixed-Mode
    Windows Simulator with Schematic Capture,
    Waveform Display, FFT's and Filter Design.
     
  17. you didnt work at FWO Bauch did you?



    martin

    After the first death, there is no other.
    (Dylan Thomas)
     
  18. Genome

    Genome Guest

    http://www.sonjakristina.com/

    I hate to mention something but..... You would have been 14 years older as
    well. Look at yourself in the mirror.

    I know who I'd like to sit on my face.

    DNA
     
  19. dB

    dB Guest


    And to do with employers who mis-label jobs.

    At the last place I worked the coffee simulator was re-filled and had
    its dripping bits wiped by a contracted female. She announced that
    she was going to apply for an "engineer"'s job so could mend them.
     
  20. Genome

    Genome Guest

    Where can I get a job as a Coffee Simulator!!!!!!!

    DNA
     
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