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Which Indoor antenna is the best?

Discussion in 'Electronic Repair' started by Robert Macy, Mar 4, 2009.

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  1. Robert Macy

    Robert Macy Guest

    Apologies for being off topic, but I thought people here may know the
    answer to the question "Which indoor antenna is best?" Especially,
    with the upcoming change to Digital Only

    I'm not talking preference here, but conclusions based upon comparison
    data.

    Located in the Bay Area, downtown San Jose, CA, fourth Floor, I would
    expect to receive quite few stations. True for analog, Not true for
    Digital.

    For example, right now I have two data points:
    Terk unknown model with amplifier [bowtie on its side shape]
    vs Radio Shack unknown model with amplifier [rabbit ears and an
    adjustable fixed radius loop in the middle]
    both have variable gain.

    First checking with analog reception as the indicator.
    1) Snow bad.
    2) Excessive ghosts bad.
    3) Fading will lose lock and give drop outs

    Using just analog reception, the Terk won hands down, both in the VHF
    and the UHF frequencies for the following example channels 2, 4, 5, 7,
    20, 32, 54, 65 [there are others]

    The RS antenna could barely, if at all, receive 2,4,5,gave
    unacceptable performance Channel 7, 20, 32, 65. ok 54.
    Whereas the Terk could give at least BW reception on 2, 4 color on 5,
    acceptable ch 7, 20, and excellent quality viewing on 32, 54, 65.

    Digital reception pretty much matched the analog reception using the
    digital converter that was the highly rated inexpensive ?? big
    buttons, can stand up on side.

    For Digital, RS could only pick up Spanish stations and 54.1,2, the
    antenna gave really poor performance.

    Using the Terk quite a few digital stations come through, but their
    constant drop out rate is very frustrating, since the sound track is
    lost, usually at a critical point in the dialogue, and the screen goes
    to a very distracting blank screen with redundant text information,
    "loss of transmission" as if you couldn't tell.

    It appears I'm located at a marginal spot in San Jose and if I could
    just pick up a few more dB to capture the digital stations, I'd be
    done. Thus, the question: which antenna of the myriad out there is
    best? Should I get a multi-element outdoor antenna and mount it on a
    post above the TV? Is that better than amplified single element?

    Robert
     
  2. GregS

    GregS Guest

    There is a lot more than that stuff. An indoor multielement is going to give more gain
    and multipath rejection. It seems lower frequency channels may be
    used in HDTV, and that requirs a large multielement outside antenna to
    be most efficienct. if its only UHF than the smaller antennas will work,
    and a multielement is going to be superior. Most any antenna need rotated
    to get the best reception. There are no true all directional antennas except
    vertical.

    I bought a $5 RCA UHF VHF antenna at Dollar store and works
    great for local 35 mile reception. Rabbit ears and loop for me.

    I would like to snoop for long range some day.

    greg
     
  3. Guest

    Go here: http://www.2150.com/broadcast/default.asp
    to find which direction(s) and what distances the stations are from
    your location. It also offers a "type of antenna" suggestion.

    If all the stations are in one direction, Radio Shack has a $35 UHF
    antenna that is designed for outdoor use but can be placed in a closet
    or behind a screen and pointed in the right direction.
    http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103088

    I'm in Atlanta, GA, and currently get about 20 channels with this
    antenna in the basement (yes, below ground level) but angled up
    about15 degrees and pointed in the direction of most of the TV
    broadcast towers.

    John
     
  4. Robert Macy

    Robert Macy Guest

    I should have stressed:
    OUTDOOR PLACEMENT OF ANTENNA IS NOT POSSIBLE.

    Thank you for the site to show Stations. The list is better than the
    one at ??.org

    And thank you for providing the URL to the antenna. It looks like it
    might have high enough gain to work. Plus, as I take back the
    amplifier RS Antenna I can pick up this one!

    Robert
     
  5. JeffM

    JeffM Guest

    It's actually been discussed here several times.
    Since you're **already** at Google
    (instead of using a real Usenet newsreader),
    you *could* have Googled it yourself.
    http://groups.google.com/group/sci....TV+antenna+OR+antennas&qt_g=Search+this+group
    You *may* be screwed.
    http://groups.google.com/group/sci....z-zz+chicken-*+galvanized-*-*+water+qq+stucco

    ....and from further up that thread:
    http://groups.google.com/group/sci....0e7aba01cfe0e5f?q=uhfhdtvantenna-*-*+avsforum
     
  6. Robert Macy

    Robert Macy Guest

    Thank you for the URL's

    This search has taken place over several weeks including googling,
    however I found very little 'useful' information, thus I asked here.

    From your last URL, by far and above anything I found, was an
    excellent article on constructing an 'attic antenna'.

    Thanks again.

    However, I am still concerned that the results from comparing my two
    antennas are so different than several [and I mean several] lists
    showing comparisons of those two antennas.

    Robert
     
  7. Baron

    Baron Guest

    Robert Macy Inscribed thus:
    As you have discovered playing about with the antenna you have is not an
    exact science ! You can get totally different results from the same
    antenna just by moving it a very short distance ! I have found, where
    I live, that moving the antenna 2 feet forward gives a better signal
    but moving it a foot to the side is even better.

    Good luck with your experiments. Its worth it for a better TV picture.
     
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