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What is the purspose of pre-tinned wire?

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Mr. Haney

Jan 1, 1970
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THAT DEPENDS ON OTHER FACTORS NOT RE3LATED TO THE CHARACTERISTICS
YOU'VE DESCRIBED

You're an idiot, Roy.
SURFACE AREA VS COMPRESION CONNECTORS

Wrong, Roy... again... as usual.
WITH TEEETH GRIPS THAT ACTUALLY SINK INTO THE WIRE ANY SPECULATION
CAN BE SAFELY CANCLELED DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE WIRE IS PIERCED AND
MECHANICALLY GRIPPED INTERNALLY NOT EXTERNALLY

Proof that you have no clue as to what skin effect is, much less how a
cinch type connection functions.
THOUGH THIS TYPE OFCONNECTION IS HARDLY USED WHEN SPLICING CABLES THE

You wouldn't know.
SERRATED TOOTH CONNECTORS ARE FAR BETTER OF COURSE BOLTS AND OTHER
FASTENING DEVICES SHOULD BITE INTO TYHE CABLE FOR A SOLID AND SOUND
CONDUCTIVE CONNECTION.

You're a babbling idiot, Roy.
..TARNISHSED WIRE DOES NOT WELD WELL AND SHOULD
BE CLEANED THOROUGHLY AND PREPARED BEFORE ATTEMPTING TO ATTACH WITH
SOLDER

Solderoing and welding are two different things, Roy. I wouldn't expect
you to know that, however.
ALL TROLLS STINK

Go take a shower, dumbfuck troll.
AND SHOULD BE DECAPTIVATED FROM THIS USENET PROCEED
AND EXECUTE KILLFILE OF ALL COX.NET USERS AND YAHOO HOMOEROTIC
DIRTBAGS

Go fall on a sword then, idiot.
OR THE RETURN OF THEE MIGHTY WONT VOLT IS EMMINENT

Just leave, Roy. And STAY the **** OUT! You stupid troll ****!
 
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Archimedes' Lever

Jan 1, 1970
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If I've told you one, I've told you a thousand times.

Learn to comprehend what you read, you retarded little mental midget.
You are not my
type.

You sound just like the guy on LOST when you say that. He was talking
to a female when he said it though. That is about your speed. You should
go hunt Roy up. You two would get along famously from the crap both of
you post into Usenet.
 
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Dr. Heywood R. Floyd

Jan 1, 1970
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This thread has gone on along time without seeming to go anywhere. In a
hope to end it and move on, I did a Google search. My best immediate hit
was: http://www.cardinalproaudio.com/main/instrume.htm,

It gave my reason first--it is easier to solder. The second one was also
commonly posted. The tin protects against copper getting oxidized if it
sits on the shelf for a long time.

What this site did not say was that the coating is not actually tin. But
I as well as many other posters use the term tin instead of solder.

Can we move on now?

Bill


Tinning, in soldering nomenclature refers to dipping the stripped ends
of a stranded wire into a solder pot after applying flux to it.
"Pre-tinned wire" is a stranded wire where the entire length of the wire
has been "tinned" (read solder impregnated) during manufacture, before
the sheath (insulation) is added.

It is entirely different than TPC, which IS TIN plated copper wire.

Pre-tinned wire is made for manufacturing processes where labor costs
have been pared down. It has nothing to do with shelf life other than
how it relates to manufacturers and THEIR shelf life during a production
cycle. It would oxidize at the same rate that a solder joint does, which
is near NONE.

I doubt seriously that you will ever find RoHS "pre-tinned wire"
anywhere as it is likely a very poor wire being tinned with RoHS solders.

PVC wire is more porous than tfe is, so it will allow oxygen to attack
the wire, even though it is sheathed. TFE allows NO oxygen into the wire
via the sheath, so it has a long shelf life regardless of the wire type
inside.

So, TPC and SPC are true plated wire assemblies, and "pre-tinned wire"
is a cheap way for a manufacturer to cut costs and give a cheaper product
as well.

Pre-tinned wire is MORE susceptible to fracture due to flexing of the
wire as it is actually a single strand as a result of the way it is made.
TPC and SPC are true stranded designs and allow flexure without work
hardening the copper inside.

Essentially pre-tinned wire sucks and is a lame choice for ANYONE
trying to build a nice piece of equipment. The difference in cost is not
enough to say that economizing by using it yields any benefit other than
to expose the designer as a cheap, stupid bastard, at best.
 
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Bob Larter

Jan 1, 1970
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msg said:
From time to time (for many years now) I deal with issues involving H.323
and RTP connectivity (payload contains IP information) and I am always
surprised by the number of ISPs I encounter that NAT their clients. These
are mostly small operators and often rural. I too run a neighborhood WISP
that NATs the clients, many of whom use the same O/S and NNTP user agents,
and I would be quite distressed if newsgroup readers assumed that IP
addresses and message headers uniquely identify the poster who just
happened
to be a neighbor and not myself.

On the bright side, DimBulb clearly isn't on a NATed IP, so one can
confidently filter him out with it.
 
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Bob Larter

Jan 1, 1970
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StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt said:
Siad the total retard with the totally retarded and immature sig for
all to see. That places your mental age at no more than 14, you retarded
BlownBulb dumbfuck.

*yawn*
 
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Dr. Heywood R. Floyd

Jan 1, 1970
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On the bright side, DimBulb clearly isn't on a NATed IP, so one can
confidently filter him out with it.


You're an idiot. I can obtain a new IP ANY time I wish, you retarded
piece of shit.

You dumbfucks are so goddamned stupid that you do not even know how an
ISP operates anymore... if you ever did.

Just so you know, I work with HAIPE v3 IP encryption gear every day.

You ain't "all that", Larter. You are "all of nothing".
 
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Dr. Heywood R. Floyd

Jan 1, 1970
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On the bright side, DimBulb clearly isn't on a NATed IP, so one can
confidently filter him out with it.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! You're a fucking pathetic joke, Larter.

SEE? SAME NETWORK PROVIDER, DIFFERENT IP ADDRESS.

So take your lack of knowledge and stick it where your head currently
is... UP YOUR ASS.
 
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Dr. Heywood R. Floyd

Jan 1, 1970
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On the bright side, DimBulb clearly isn't on a NATed IP, so one can
confidently filter him out with it.


Bwuahahahahahah! Filter boy doesn't have a clue.

Just so you know, idiot, this is all on the same cable modem.

I *could* also get on the wireless and simply grab up any number of
currently unsecured networks in the local area, but that *would* be
illegal, as opposed to the fact that I have done nothing illegal on my
computer.

Om the bright side, I can prod you upside da haed ANY TIME I want to,
idiot.
 
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Bob Larter

Jan 1, 1970
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Dr. Heywood R. Floyd said:
You're an idiot. I can obtain a new IP ANY time I wish, you retarded
piece of shit.

You dumbfucks are so goddamned stupid that you do not even know how an
ISP operates anymore... if you ever did.

Just so you know, I work with HAIPE v3 IP encryption gear every day.

You ain't "all that", Larter. You are "all of nothing".

Wahhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!11!!!!! Poor baby!
 
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Bob Larter

Jan 1, 1970
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Dr. Heywood R. Floyd said:
Bwuahahahahahah! Filter boy doesn't have a clue.

Just so you know, idiot, this is all on the same cable modem.

Gee, I never would've guessed, genius.
I *could* also get on the wireless and simply grab up any number of
currently unsecured networks in the local area, but that *would* be
illegal, as opposed to the fact that I have done nothing illegal on my
computer.

You should learn to speak English.
Om the bright side, I can prod you upside da haed ANY TIME I want to,
idiot.

Can you? - I don't think so.
 
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Steve Terry

Jan 1, 1970
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Rich Grise said:
I once watched a guy build a 1KW linear out of surplus parts. He had this
beautiful silver-plated tank coil, and this idiot SAMDPAPERED the tarnish
off!
Can you say "skin effect", boys and girls? ;-)
Cheers!
Rich
I polished the roller coaster ATU in my 62 set with Brasso many years ago,
but i think that was solid silver wire?
My concern was to get a low resistance contact with the pick up wheel,
rather than any surface effect.

Steve Terry
 
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krw

Jan 1, 1970
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Learn to comprehend what you read, you retarded little mental midget.

My comprehension is just fine, although your 're just as dim as ever,
DimBulb.
You sound just like the guy on LOST when you say that. He was talking
to a female when he said it though. That is about your speed. You should
go hunt Roy up. You two would get along famously from the crap both of
you post into Usenet.

I don't waste my time on crap like Lost, nor do I hit on your mommy.
I'll leave her laundry for you and Roy.

So go ahead! You know you'll enjoy it.
 
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