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  1. Roger

    Roger Guest

    Everywhere I have worked over the years has used Weller soldering
    irons.

    I recently went to buy a new one and saw there was a "new" range, the
    WHS models. They look neat and cost a bit less. And they are RUBBISH.
    Just plain simple trashy, not what you would expect from Weller.

    I hope somebody at Weller get's shot for putting these on the market,
    and they go back to making first rate products!
     
  2. Tim Schwartz

    Tim Schwartz Guest

    Roger,

    Are you sure that is was not someone's knockoff with a similar spelling
    like 'Weler' or 'Wellar'? I went to the Weller web site and could not
    find anything on WHS.

    Regards,
    Tim
     
  3. G

    G Guest

    Probably slow at updating the website.

    I have used stations over the years, but after using the one at work, all
    the other irons feel like holding a baseball bat to solder. A nice thin
    iron is much better, and that one is also the most powerfull iron I
    have used for electronic soldering. I may just buy an iron and
    make another simple temperature controller for it. Its like this....
    http://www.cooperhandtools.com/brands/CF_Files/model_detail.cfm?upc=0371032255
     
  4. G

    G Guest

    http://www.cooperhandtools.com/brands/CF_Files/model_detail.cfm?upc=037103225511
     
  5. Warren Weber

    Warren Weber Guest

    See if they show made in China. If so junk.
     
  6. gb

    gb Guest

    Look on teh bottom. Was this the Weller European design group?
    Look for EU or Gbmh

    gb
     
  7. gb

    gb Guest

    All soldering manufacturers are having issues due to Chinese exports.

    Hakko (Japan) has at least 4 different knock-offs/cones (Auoye, Madell,
    Quakko, etc).
    They MAY look the same -- but feedback due to poor quality has been negative
    from many circles.
    http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=85254&page=3

    Sorny Roong Industrial Co., Ltd. (SOLOMON) in Taiwan is a large OEM exporter
    for private brands by Elenco, Tenma, CSI, etc. Negative is that you can no
    buy replacement heaters in US, only the irons!
    http://www.soldering.com.tw/cgi-bin/companyfn/com_profile_lst.pl

    Weller "TCP" series still solid station (easy to repair, most reliable
    temperature controlled station since 1966) -- and I have been fixing them
    for 35 years -- need parts?

    The Weller moved to Mexico; did the RoHS required retooling and introduced
    new models (and discontinued EC series from 2002 -2004.
    At the same time. parent company Cooper Tools (Houston) was considering to
    sell Weller and some other brands to Fluke (they did not come to agreement).
    In past 12 to 18 months -- Weller seems a bit more focused on business (less
    distractions).

    gb
     
  8. clifto

    clifto Guest

    I never liked Weller. Never could get a tip to last a week. On the other
    hand, I have a Hexacon I bought in the seventies and it's on its third
    tip. I'm starting to look for replacements, as I don't expect this one
    to last out the decade and may need a fourth by 2011.
     
  9. N Cook

    N Cook Guest


    My Weller TCP PU 3D first went into use on a production line Sep 11, 1986 .
    I bought it at auction ten years later and use it every day since.
    I have 2 spare elements and 2 spare switches and dozens of tips , so it
    should last me out.
    Dropped it once , requiring TLC to the switch but thats the only problem
    I've had with it.

    Remember never throw away a tip without removing the magnastat - you can
    always swap it tu a tip with right profile but wrong temp.
    I don't leave mine switched on all the working day.
     
  10. Ross Herbert

    Ross Herbert Guest

    It all depends on whether you use genuine Weller tips or not and the
    solder you use. I have used a WTCP since the 60's and for everyday use
    a tip would last at least 6mths when using rosin cored activated
    solder such as Multicore Sav-bit.

    Those replacement tips from Vanier were never any good imo - even
    using Sav-bit.
     
  11. Smitty Two

    Smitty Two Guest

    One of the many, many problems with the WTCP is their uncanny ability to
    develop faulty temp switches. Then the tips run wide open and burn up in
    an hour or two.

    I stopped devoting one or two days per month repairing soldering
    stations, the day I threw all the Wellers in the dumpster and replaced
    them with Edsyn.
     
  12. N Cook

    N Cook Guest

    I used to buy Weller TCP at auctions , recondition and sell on, and I only
    ever came across open circuit switches. Agreed you have to treat them with
    respect, ie not clouting them against chassis sides or dropping on the
    floor. Perhaps if the wrong retention barrels (too much iron) or some other
    mechanical mismatch was causing the switches to close permanently.
    The thermal element is in the magnastat, losing magnetism at its formulated
    temperature.
    Not many people realise that the closure barrel that holds the tips in place
    is factored into the magnastat operation.
     
  13. N Cook

    N Cook Guest

    One silly add on I was going to try years ago, but as the element never blew
    , was/wasn't this.
    A proximity detector in the iron holder and if the iron had not been removed
    for 5 minutes then cut in a diode to the heater line, cancelled immediately
    if the iron is picked up.
     
  14. clifto

    clifto Guest

    As of the last time I had to use a Weller, I didn't know anyone else made
    tips for them. The replacements I was installing came out of Weller
    shrink packaging.

    Always had good solder at the places I've worked; for some reason, no one
    ever cheaped out on solder.
     
  15. Meat Plow

    Meat Plow Guest

    Does anyone still have an Unger? I have one that I've used for 20 or so
    years. Still have a few of the #111 Iron Clad tips.
     

  16. http://www.platoproducts.com/crosspa2.htm


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    Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
    prove it.
    Member of DAV #85.

    Michael A. Terrell
    Central Florida
     
  17. Ross Herbert

    Ross Herbert Guest

     
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    Ross Herbert Guest

     
  19. Smitty Two

    Smitty Two Guest

     

  20. No attention at all? We were required to check the temperature
    calibration every 90 days. I did it several times, when the ME office
    was overworked. There were a couple hundred irons, scattered between
    manufacturing, test, service and engineering. I checked the tip to
    ground resistance several times a day on the ions I used. I checked one
    of the older digital bench meters out of our cal lab, and connected one
    lead to the bench's ground system, and the other lead to a scrap of
    unetched PC board so that I could pick up an iron and touch the PC board
    while glancing at the meter. Anything above three ohms required the tip
    to be removed and cleaned. If that didn't fix the problem, the iron had
    to be turned in for repair. I spent about 10 minutes every day
    maintaining my three Edsyn 'Loner' irons.


    --
    Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
    prove it.
    Member of DAV #85.

    Michael A. Terrell
    Central Florida
     
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