voltage controller circuit

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Hi

I have 30 volt regulated adapter. I would like to create a circuit
which will allow me to control the voltage from 0 to 30.

Can anyone tell me where I can find a diagram for such circuit? I am
very new to electronic. I am creating this for my ety class -- mostly
to test series and parallel circuits, and few other lab work.
However, I may use it for other things too.

Thanks in advance

 

[[email protected]]

Hi

I have 30 volt regulated adapter. I would like to create a circuit
which will allow me to control the voltage from 0 to 30.

Can anyone tell me where I can find a diagram for such circuit? I am
very new to electronic. I am creating this for my ety class -- mostly
to test series and parallel circuits, and few other lab work.
However, I may use it for other things too.

Thanks in advance

Update

I built following circuit on a breadboard and voltage regulator (5K
LM317 regulator) was burned -- sparking were coming out it...

http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter/lm317.gif <--- this was the c

This is what I did with LM317

LM317 has three input (a,b,c)
a goes to ground,
b connectedt o resistor 240, -- i was using resistor 220om cause I
don't have 240ohm
c connected to LM317?

what went wrong?

 

[Charles]

Update

I built following circuit on a breadboard and voltage regulator (5K
LM317 regulator) was burned -- sparking were coming out it...

Sparking? Sounds as if your input voltage is far beyond 30 volts.

 

[martin griffith]

On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:36:48 -0000, in sci.electronics.design

Update

I built following circuit on a breadboard and voltage regulator (5K
LM317 regulator) was burned -- sparking were coming out it...

http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter/lm317.gif <--- this was the c

This is what I did with LM317

LM317 has three input (a,b,c)
a goes to ground,
b connectedt o resistor 240, -- i was using resistor 220om cause I
don't have 240ohm
c connected to LM317?

what went wrong?

how much current are you using in your load
check the spec sheet for maximum input to output voltage
work out the maximum power dissipation for a 317, did it have a
heatsink?


martin

 

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how much current are you using in your load

I have no idea how to check that. The only formula I think of is i=v/
r.

check the spec sheet for maximum input to output voltage
work out the maximum power dissipation for a 317, did it have a
heatsink?

I am very new to this stuff, beside parallel and series circuit my
knowlege is nil

Correction:

LM317 does have a head sink and it is okay. Sparks, and smoke were
coming out of 5k potentiometer. Why did I do wrong?

PS: My regulated adaptor has two output 15v, and 30v. According to my
DIMM one is 15.11V and second is 31.70V. Adaptor came with my HP
printer.

 

[[email protected]]

Sparking? Sounds as if your input voltage is far beyond 30 volts.

Sorry, sparks were coming out of potentiometer. Voltage regulator is
okay, although it was very hot.

 

[ehsjr]

Update

I built following circuit on a breadboard and voltage regulator (5K
LM317 regulator) was burned -- sparking were coming out it...

http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter/lm317.gif <--- this was the c

This is what I did with LM317

LM317 has three input (a,b,c)
a goes to ground,
b connectedt o resistor 240, -- i was using resistor 220om cause I
don't have 240ohm
c connected to LM317?

what went wrong?

The diagram is correct, as far as it goes, except that
your input voltage is way higher than it needs to be at
40 volts, which would cause a whole bunch of extra heat.

For a maximum of 12.71 volts output, you want to keep the
input voltage to no more than ~16 volts. The 220 ohm
resistor is not a problem. Your table of resistances
and output voltage, if those are measurements, suggest
a high current draw and no heatsink. For example, with
220 R1 and 2200 R2 and a measured output of 12.71, you
are over a volt low. Makes me believe you are cooking
the LM317.

What to do?
1) Make _absolutely_ sure you set the 10-40 volt input supply
to *no more* than 16 volts when you want <13 volts out.
2) Tell us what the load is - how much current does it draw?
3) Put the LM317 on a heat sink.
4) Depending on your answer to 1) you may need to add pass
transistors.


Let's get the ~12 volt supply sorted out before going
to the ~30 volt supply.

Ed

 

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The diagram is correct, as far as it goes, except that
your input voltage is way higher than it needs to be at
40 volts, which would cause a whole bunch of extra heat.

For a maximum of 12.71 volts output, you want to keep the
input voltage to no more than ~16 volts. The 220 ohm
resistor is not a problem. Your table of resistances
and output voltage, if those are measurements, suggest
a high current draw and no heatsink. For example, with
220 R1 and 2200 R2 and a measured output of 12.71, you
are over a volt low. Makes me believe you are cooking
the LM317.

What to do?
1) Make _absolutely_ sure you set the 10-40 volt input supply
to *no more* than 16 volts when you want <13 volts out.
2) Tell us what the load is - how much current does it draw?
3) Put the LM317 on a heat sink.
4) Depending on your answer to 1) you may need to add pass
transistors.

Let's get the ~12 volt supply sorted out before going
to the ~30 volt supply.

Ed

Tomorrow, I will buy two new potentiometer. In some of my lab
expirement I need 20-25v output. I still don't understand how my
potentiometer end up sparking, and smoking.

I am sure I put it in a wrong way, I just don't know which way would
be right though...

 

[[email protected]]

Sorry, sparks were coming out of potentiometer. Voltage regulator is
okay, although it was very hot.

Where do you have the potentiometer connected. I don't see it in your
schematic. The schematic is correct. Try putting the potentiometer in
place of the two resistors: put the pot's wiper to the ADJ terminal
on the LM317, one end of pot to OUT and the other end of pot to grond.
That should vary the output voltage.

 

[Mike]

Where do you have the potentiometer connected. I don't see it in your
schematic. The schematic is correct. Try putting the potentiometer in
place of the two resistors: put the pot's wiper to the ADJ terminal
on the LM317, one end of pot to OUT and the other end of pot to grond.
That should vary the output voltage.

No, Don't do that! It won't work. The 317 wants the 240/220ohm from out to adj.
Connect the pot as a rheostat betwee adj and Gnd.

Mike
When truth is absent politics will fill the gap.

 

[ehsjr]

Tomorrow, I will buy two new potentiometer. In some of my lab
expirement I need 20-25v output. I still don't understand how my
potentiometer end up sparking, and smoking.

I am sure I put it in a wrong way, I just don't know which way would
be right though...

Your diagram does not show a potientiometer. It
sounds like you have connected the potentiometer
to the wrong place. Post a schematic that shows
the potentiometer.

You can get 20-25v output. But first, you need
to get the basic circuit to work properly. Then
you can add pass transistors.

You can measure how much current is drawn to
get a fairly close ball park figure this way:
put a 1 ohm 5 watt resistor in series between
the Vout from the 317 and the load. Connect
your voltmeter across the 1 ohm resistor.
The reading you get is the current in amperes
that the load is drawing.

Ed

 

[[email protected]]

Your diagram does not show a potientiometer. It
sounds like you have connected the potentiometer
to the wrong place. Post a schematic that shows
the potentiometer.

I haved replaced the R2 resistor with 25k potientiometer (i will be
using 5k one later). Right now I am using 25k potientiometer. I have
also change the input voltage to 4v from a unregulated adaptor (for
testing). Both the potientiometer and regulator get really hot.


I think i am putting potioentiometer in a wrong way...

Mine looks like this http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7a/Pot-pic.jpg

It has three pin a,b,c
this is the way i put them.

a went to ground
b went to output
c --- where does this go?


I have also bought 50k and two 5k potioentiometers.

 

[neon]

you cannot input into an LM317 mre then 36 volts and zero volts out is ridiculos just shut the power off then. the output can be 1.2v for minimumn. for the same current outthe lm317 needs to get rid of a lot of heat. heatsink is required.

 

[Peter Bennett]

I haved replaced the R2 resistor with 25k potientiometer (i will be
using 5k one later). Right now I am using 25k potientiometer. I have
also change the input voltage to 4v from a unregulated adaptor (for
testing). Both the potientiometer and regulator get really hot.


I think i am putting potioentiometer in a wrong way...

Mine looks like this http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7a/Pot-pic.jpg

It has three pin a,b,c
this is the way i put them.

a went to ground
b went to output
c --- where does this go?


I have also bought 50k and two 5k potioentiometers.

The pot should go in place of R2, with the center terminal connected
to the LM317 "ADJ" pin, and one end terminal connected to ground.

You probably don't want a pot of more than 5K, or the useful range of
the post will be squeezed down at one end.


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[MooseFET]

[... LM317 ...]

The pot should go in place of R2, with the center terminal connected
to the LM317 "ADJ" pin, and one end terminal connected to ground.

You probably don't want a pot of more than 5K, or the useful range of
the post will be squeezed down at one end.

You may also want to include a 0.1U from the ADJ pin of the LM317 to
circuit ground. The LM317 has useful gain up into the many MHz
range. This is good because it makes the output voltage very stable
with changing loads but also can cause oscillations if the leads are
too long.


If the LM317 is sharing a source with other loads, you will also want
to think about what happens when the power switch is turned off. You
may want to add a diode (1N400X) from the output bact to the supply
(Cathode to supply). This way the output of the regulator is pulled
down if the input to it goes down.

 

[neon]

lets get to basic the LM317 is a 1.2 v regualtor with capabiliy of 1.5 amps max input is 36 volts. the power dissipation is totaly dependend on power out. this guy will never ever go to 0 volts except on power shut down. want zero then the adj must go below -1.2 volts. all the BS will never change that. it is simple to design provided that power dissipation is considered

 

[zvod32]

i had a 14v 500mah wall wart, and i wanted to ajust the speed of some fans i had rigged on it....so i had a 120v pot on it...and the thing sparked and smoked......it was a 1 mega ohm...any suggestions