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Discussion in 'Electronic Design' started by Jan Panteltje, Jan 31, 2007.

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  1. Lemme get this straight, that OS needs 'better hardware', and that
    better hardware uses more power.
    So just to power Vista we need to build 11 extra nukulear plants?
    hehe
    Vista is not 'green'.
    V I S T A I S N O T G R E E N

    Any comments?
     
  2. Fred Bartoli

    Fred Bartoli Guest

    Jan Panteltje a écrit :
    Obviously can't be green since those guys invented BSOD.
     
  3. John Larkin

    John Larkin Guest

    There are perhaps a dozen or so gigawatt-scale power plants scattered
    around the world, because the Windows hibernate thing has never worked
    right.

    I've seen the estimate that a few per cent of the generating capacity
    of the USA is used to run pc's that are not shut down when not in use.
    They're not shut down because suspend doesn't work, and boot times are
    so long. The Microsoft-mandated soft power switch thing consumes
    vampire power even when a pc is "off."

    Microsoft is rapacious in more ways than three.

    John
     
  4. Joel Kolstad

    Joel Kolstad Guest

    ....and because, for "enterprise" scenarios where there are thousands of
    machines that are intended to be backed up/updated/whatever overnight, the IT
    guys couldn't get "wake on LAN" to work.
    Yeah, but at least they try to limit it to something like 5W. My parents had
    one of those old color TVs with the "instant on" feature that worked by
    keeping the tube filament running all the time... I'm sure that was far worse.

    Speaking of filaments... California might not let you use them for lighting in
    the not-so-distant future:
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/energy_california_lightbulbs_dc . I'm all for
    compact fluorescents, but I think it's too bad they oversell them a little in
    that article (a 20W CF is more like a 60W incandescent, not 75W) and don't
    mention the drawbacks (many take a significant time to achieve full brightness
    in cold weather, etc.). And of course it's just evil to try to outright ban
    incandescents rather than, say, using the carrot approach of subsidizing the
    price of CFs, if they're so convinced they're that much better.

    ---Joel
     
  5. I added some CF to my work room, and did not like the spectrum (too red).
    Put back 2 of those new 'cool white' long fluorescent tubes above my desk.
    Much better light, especially when soldering SMD :)
     
  6. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

    Are these the ones with the 5200C colour temp ?

    I've been thinking of getting some.

    Graham
     
  7. I dunno, it is Osram L18/640, and I can find only eastern Europen docs on it
    on the net.
    No mention of color temp on the tubes themselves, but I have read on some
    Siemens site these are new colors.
    But I think it is somewhere neear 4100K, just a different phosphor.
     
  8. Zak

    Zak Guest

    640 means:

    6 is the CRI aka the color rendering quality. 6 is not good. 8 is
    standard. 9 is better but will be lower efficiency.

    40 is the CCT or color temperature (4000 K). A CFL is 2700, halogen is 3000.

    A normal CFL will be an 827.


    Thomas
     
  9. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

    Do you know anything about these 5500K so-called 'daylight balanced' phosphors ?
    http://search.ebay.co.uk/5500k_W0QQ...0QQsargnZQ2d1QQsaslcZ3QQsbrftogZ1QQsofocusZbs

    or 6400K
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-x-SAD-Spira...8QQihZ014QQcategoryZ20706QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZnulightuk

    Graham
     
  10. MassiveProng

    MassiveProng Guest

    No. WHEN said hardware is being taxed, perhaps, but MOST MODERN PCs
    clock down under low use conditions. My X2 CPUs don't even surpass
    human body temp. My 4 yr old Dually set-up, both CPUs ran at 142 F.
    Guess which system burned more off the PS?
    You're dumber than Bush could ever be. You actually did it on
    purpose, and even messed that up. At least he's so dumb that he
    forgets to say it right, even after being told so many times.
    It might have been, several years ago. Currently nuked, however.
    You are not an authority.

    My machine boots to password prompt in 3 seconds flat.
    You are a MAC shill or some other such dumbfucktard type.
    Stay out of Usenet groups you have no business in (oh that's right,
    you are electronical). Try posting your crap to a relevant newsgroup.
     
  11. MassiveProng

    MassiveProng Guest

    Have yet to se it in Vista.
     
  12. MassiveProng

    MassiveProng Guest

    This is wrong. When XP or Vista either one are placed in standby
    mode, the ONLY supply kept up is the +5V Stdby supply, and you can
    READ the wattage your PS provides on THAT RAIL.

    My XP machine at work boots to password prompt in 3 seconds flat,
    and so does my vista machine here. When the friggin things are OFF,
    they're OFF. EVEN in STANDBY mode.

    SUSPEND mode is a BAD idea. If you have a document or app up that
    you cannot do a save on your current work from, you have an ancient
    app that needs a burial.

    If all active work IS saved, there is no reason or need for a
    suspend.

    Standby works.
     
  13. MassiveProng

    MassiveProng Guest


    Wake on LAN works. It simply requires a boot image to be ON the LAN
    card.
     
  14. MassiveProng

    MassiveProng Guest

    Use grow lamps, bypass meter. ;-] No need for furnace in winter!
     
  15. Robert Baer

    Robert Baer Guest

    Nasty question: do CFLs use *mercury* like other fluorescents?
     
  16. Robert Baer

    Robert Baer Guest

    Very good for growing MaryJane, and were virtually banned in
    CAlifornia for a while...
     
  17. Thank you!
     
  18. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

    They do. Not very much though, it's expensive !

    Now, did you play with mercury as a kid like me ? Did it damage you ?

    Graham
     
  19. Eeyore

    Eeyore Guest

    I've seen several high output CFLs advertised on ebay.co.uk for 'hydryponic' use.

    Also some with a colour temp of 6400K for treating seasonal affective disorder.

    Graham
     
  20. Joel Kolstad

    Joel Kolstad Guest

    There's a difference between something "working" and a bunch of IT guys being
    able to get it to "work." :) Sometimes the IT guys are borderline competent
    and don't know what they're doing, sometimes the WoL implementation is flaky,
    whatever. But I once worked at a company with thousands of employees (and
    computers), and the rule was that you kept your PC on overnight so that
    automated backups could be performed. When I asked why they didn't use WoL,
    the response was that they could never get it to work *reliably.*
     
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