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Discussion in 'Hobby Electronics' started by John, Sep 7, 2007.

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  1. John

    John Guest

    On a computer 3 pronged mains plug, which is L, N and G?
  2. Phil Allison

    Phil Allison Guest


    ** What ambiguous drivel.

    PCs use IEC leads with a female plug at the PC end - so no prongs.

    ........ Phil
  3. John

    John Guest

    You've been a great help.

    I was looking for something like this:
  4. Phil Allison

    Phil Allison Guest

    "Phil Allison"

    ** Really ???

    The FUCKING IMBECILE who wrote that has it backwards !!!

    IEC kettle plugs are C13 or FEMALE !!

    So are the IEC plugs on all general purpose IEC leads.

    Piss offffffffffff .

    ....... Phil
  5. Kevin Martin

    Kevin Martin Guest

  6. Phil Allison

    Phil Allison Guest


    ** Looking at the IEC female plug, with the earth pin uppermost,

    then from left to right it is : Neutral - Earth - Active.

    The IEC female plug is known as a C13.

    It is " female " because it has sockets, not pins !!

    That idiotic web page you found from some half witted compewter geek
    got everything 100 % dead WRONG.

    The imbecile who wrote it does not even know male from female.


    The IEC male socket ( aka C14) must NEVER be attached to the end of a AC
    power cord - since that creates a 100% LETHAL male to male lead.

    ........ Phil
  7. Phil Allison

    Phil Allison Guest


    ** Yet AGAIN - the site is TOTALLY WRONG !!!

    Fucking *compewter * geeks MORONS cannot tell male from female or a plug
    from a damn socket.

    Lucky rewirable IEC connectors ARE actually marked with L N and E !!

    ........ Phil
  8. aussiblu

    aussiblu Guest

    I thought you would be amused.
  9. aussiblu

    aussiblu Guest

    PS and yes I didn't notice until you pointed it out. It is
    actually very hard to find a correct and clear IEC plug and
    socket wiring guide on the net.
  10. aussiblu

    aussiblu Guest

    Hopefully the rewirable connectors are not being made in China
    by someone using a web site as a labelling guide though.
  11. aussiblu

    aussiblu Guest

    And if you do a Google image search for "IEC plug" or "IEC
    socket" even those selling them mix the terms around 50% of the
    time. So much for IEC being a standard.
  12. Phil Allison

    Phil Allison Guest


    ** Sadist !!

    ........ Phil ;-)
  13. Phil Allison

    Phil Allison Guest


    ** If you find one - post it.

    ........ Phil
  14. aussiblu

    aussiblu Guest

  15. aussiblu

    aussiblu Guest

    So from this
    "A set of thirteen plugs (called the connector in the
    specification) and thirteen matching sockets (called the
    appliance inlet) are defined by specification IEC 60320. A set
    of 11 connectors/appliance-inlets are defined in specification
    AS/NZS 60320.1:2004."

    perhaps we should be referring to "appliance inlets" and
    "connectors" rather than plugs and sockets and males and females
    when talking IEC.

    I look forward to someone with the appropriate expertise
    confirming the correct term usage.
  16. aussiblu

    aussiblu Guest

    I have actually contacted the sites and asked the question. The
    first site mentioned (Ray Heffer) has contacted me and removed
    the page.
  17. Phil Allison

    Phil Allison Guest


    ** The problem seems to be with the meaning of the terms " plug" and "socket

    The common IEC C13 " plug " is a female connector - for obvious safety
    reasons. It *plugs* into a mating socket which is male, since it has

    The way most makers have long described connectors like these is to
    completely AVOID the use of " plug " and " socket" .

    Instead, the terms " line male" or "line female" are used for ones that
    attach to cables & " panel male " or " panel female" for the ones that
    mount on equipment.

    This pretty much eliminates the ambiguity of " plug " and " socket " -
    for most people that is.

    There is no accounting for autistic IT geeks lacking even one scintilla of
    common sense or it seems the basics of the "birds and bees" .

    ...... Phil
  18. Phil Allison

    Phil Allison Guest


    ** Nice work.

    No need to program a cruise missile after all.

    ....... Phil
  19. Mr.T

    Mr.T Guest

    Firstly it can't really be wrong since no connection details are given.
    Secondly why would anyone trust Wikipedia anyway? Sometimes it might be
    right of course, but knowing when it is frequently wrong is the problem. And
    if you are already sure, why bother looking?

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