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Seeker

Jan 1, 1970
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G'day!

I was wondering if it was feasible/possible to convert a gasoline lawnmower
into a biodiesel powered mower. Has anyone attempted this? A Google search
didn't turn up much.
 
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Ecnerwal

Jan 1, 1970
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Seeker said:
I was wondering if it was feasible/possible to convert a gasoline lawnmower
into a biodiesel powered mower. Has anyone attempted this? A Google search
didn't turn up much.

Possible, perhaps; feasible, I doubt.

Simple method - toss engine, put on a Robin or other small Diesel. The
new engine will exceed the value of the lawnmower by a huge extent, so I
don't class this as especially "feasible", but if you have money to
throw away...

Simple method 2 - buy a Diesel compact tractor. Even more $$, but useful
for other things than mowing lawns.

Fiendishly complex and futile method: do a rebuild to up the compression
and somehow graft on an injector pump that's worth more than the
lawnmower. If you succeed, run it a few hours, and find (most likely)
that the increased compression destroys the bearings in the engine.

If you want to play with an alternative fuel for your gasoline
lawnmower, woodgas is probably the most likely to have a chance at
working, unless you want to go through all the headaches of making
alcohol fuel. Home Power has a 1991 article which was downloadable from
their web site a few months ago - I assume it still is. Mother Earth
News also covered the process. It seems a bit fiddly (making the fire
smoulder just right to produce gas, trying to clean the ash out before
the gas hits the engine, etc), but requires no change to the basic
operation of the motor, and has been widely used in the past.

Then there's a fence and some sheep, or geese.
 
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Fred B. McGalliard

Jan 1, 1970
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Simple method - toss engine, put on a Robin or other small Diesel. The
new engine will exceed the value of the lawnmower by a huge extent, so I
don't class this as especially "feasible", but if you have money to
throw away...

You could get a diesel generator set and an electric lawnmower. The
advantage, you get to use the generator for other purposes, like power when
the blackout comes, or to save on the power bill so you can pay for the
generator? Also this will keep the stinky exhaust and loud engine noise away
from you while you putter around the lawn. Also you don't have to cart
around the relativly heavy diesel, and you don't have to machine a drive
train and mounting for it.
 
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Fred B. McGalliard

Jan 1, 1970
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And the 3,000 foot extension cord can be put on a reel when your
not using it. :)>)

After all your only replacing a $150 lawn mower with something
less expensive to operate! Lets see... At $2.059 a gallon my
lawn mower costs (about) $0.12 a week to run. But I only have a
quarter acre to mow. Good plan!

Well, practically, if you have a nice flat lawn, up to an acre, you would
probably find an electric lighter and, cord and all, easier to handle. I
used one for a couple years on up to a 200 ft extension on a somewhat hilly
pasture. Then the horse took over for me. Worked OK except the horsey leaves
these little piles of fertilizer and then won't eat the nice weeds that grow
there. I'm not going to mow that! You mow it!.
 
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Seeker

Jan 1, 1970
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How big of a lawn???
In my youth, I used to cut 2/3's of an acre with a reel mower.
Anything over an acre probably calls for a tractor..

If you're interested, then I suggest that you read the reviews.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...=customer-reviews&show=-submittime&start-at=1

Now you really have me thinking. Sometimes simplicity is overlooked. I may
rent one of these for a day and see if it does a good enough job. If it
does, maybe I'll buy one. My yard is about 1/3 acre and after reading the
reviews, it seems doable with this unit.
 
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Ecnerwal

Jan 1, 1970
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Now you really have me thinking. Sometimes simplicity is overlooked. I may
rent one of these for a day and see if it does a good enough job. If it
does, maybe I'll buy one. My yard is about 1/3 acre and after reading the
reviews, it seems doable with this unit.

Mainly you cannot get away with the sort of slack behavior that a rotary
will allow. The machine needs to be sharp and properly lubed, and should
have a nice dry storage spot - and be brushed off after use. Rust is bad.

The lawn needs to be mown regularly - long grass is just not an option
with a reel mower - it clogs, badly.

Rocks and debris are bad news for the blades being sharp. Soft spots or
muddy parts will not do, as the wheels slide, dig in, or both, and when
the wheels don't turn, the blades do not, either.

With all that said, for a small lawn they are a viable option, and they
actually cut the grass (like scissors) rather than blugdoning it off as
a rotary mower does. You can still find gangs of the things being pulled
by tractors to mow golf courses and other high-end grass.

You should try to find out how accessible a good sharpening service
which can deal with a reel mower is in your area.
 
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Bob Adkins

Jan 1, 1970
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I used to have a Sears Craftsman battery powered rotary push mower. I think
it was 19 or 20", very powerful, and cut like crazy. I kept the blade sharp,
and even neglected grass wasn't a problem.

It ate expensive 12v marine batteries at an appalling rate, so I abandoned
it when the last battery died.

Wonder why nobody has marketed a reel type battery powered mower? Reel
mowers require about 1/3 the horsepower (and battery usage) as rotary. I
would buy one in a minute if the width was at least 20", not too heavy, and
used batteries that aren't harmed by discharging 90%.

Bob

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Gordon Richmond

Jan 1, 1970
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There actually was a battery-operated reel-type mower sold. Made in
Britain, sold in the 1960s, I think. I remember seeing one.

One possible drawback: power reel mowers usually have a wheel drive,
so it is desirable to have a throttle control to control mower speed
for the operator's comfort. Solid-state controllers could do it now, I
guess, but back then, no such option was available.

There is not much point in having a reel-type mower unless you have a
quality lawn. IMHO.

Gordon Richmond
 
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Bob Adkins

Jan 1, 1970
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There is not much point in having a reel-type mower unless you have a
quality lawn. IMHO.

A reel type battery powered mower sounds good to me because of power
consumption, not the quality of the cut. (Although I'll happily take the
manicured look!)

My electric rotary mower had a 3 or 3.5 HP motor and ran for 45-50 minutes
on a 115Ah marine battery. I don't believe a reel mower would need more than
..75 HP, and could possibly finish an average yard without damaging the
battery.

The ULTIMATE mower is the elusive solar robotic mower. They slowly graze on
your lawn like a huge sow bug, hour after hour, day after day until they
finally get it all. Then they start over. These solar-robotics will
certainly be developed to a high state of sophistication and technology,
because all men genetically hate mowing.

Bob

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Gordon Richmond

Jan 1, 1970
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Bob,

I just read a newspaper story today, about "green" lawnmowers, and
apparently there is a rechargeable electric reel machine now on the
market. I think it is called the "Reel Electric", and is made by
Brill. Probably a Google search would find it.

Reel mowers do give manicured look, but they don't cope well with
irregularities in the surface, and debris on the lawn.

I.E, the lawn has to be a LAWN, not short-grass pasture. :>)

Gordon Richmond
 
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Bob Adkins

Jan 1, 1970
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Of course, many crops can produce both oil and ethanol. You can get both
byproducts from the same crop, plus high energy animal feed.

Seems like corn would be a lucrative crop if the entire plant could be used
efficiently. You can press oil, use the pressed corn to produce ethanol, and
use the rest, including the plant as high quality feed.

Bob

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Anthony Matonak

Jan 1, 1970
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OERTG wrote:
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You got the oil expression and conversion of starch to ethanol correct. Why
did you not go ahead with conversion of the cellulose in the cobs, stalk, and
leaves to ethanol as well? It is one of the largest losses in most of the
operations that use corn feedstocks. Look at the paper industry conversion of
paper waste (cellulose) to ethanol...george

Perhaps the cobs, stalk and leaves would make better OSB than fuel.

http://www.otm.uiuc.edu/techs/techdetail.asp?id=124

Anthony
 
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