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Discussion in 'Electrical Engineering' started by Joe S, Jul 27, 2006.

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  1. Rod Speed

    Rod Speed Guest

    Wrong if some monkey drops it when getting out of the
    pallet load into what gets sent to the end user, stupid.
    Pity about what happens when its dropped outside the factory, cretin.
     

  2. Proof that you are a mere immature adolescent twit.
     
  3. Since I have bought them by the case from more than one maker, I am
    certain that I have more of a clue than you ever will.
     
  4. You're an idiot. A drive in a box at the store doesn't get "sent to
    the end user" from the factory, you retarded twit.

    I think you are a line worker at a PC company like Dell. Your
    mentality certainly suggests such. You turn the same screws every
    day. Hahaah... what a fucking joke you are.
     
  5. I noticed that you never did answer the question about how many Gs
    are placed on an item dropped from 4 feet up.

    Guess what, fucktard? It isn't anywhere near 250Gs.
     
  6. Rod Speed

    Rod Speed Guest

    Pathetic, really.
    No presumption, I assumed thats what you stupidly intended.
    Pity it wasnt me doing the saying.
     
  7. Rod Speed

    Rod Speed Guest

    Easy to claim, child.
    Clearly havent got a clue about what happens to
    the drive between the pallet and the end user's table.
     
  8. Rod Speed

    Rod Speed Guest

    You're a terminal pig ignorant fuckwit.
    Never ever said it did, cretin.
    Not a shred of evidence that you are actually capable of thought.
    Guess which pathetic little pig ignorant prat has
    just got egg all over its silly little face, yet again ?

    <reams of your puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs>
     
  9. Rod Speed

    Rod Speed Guest

    Irrelevant to whether that can **** a drive, fuckwit child.
     
  10. J. Clarke

    J. Clarke Guest

    And you have proven that you don't know how the game of "jo mamma" is
    played.
     
  11. Osiris

    Osiris Guest

    It is the labour that makes the paranoia subside, not the test
    results...
     
  12. A package spec to guide a customer on boxing up his return has
    absolutely NOTHING to do with the package a drive is shipped from a
    maker to the US shores in. Totally unrelated to this thread.
     
  13. As if you make contributions.
     
  14. Jon D

    Jon D Guest

    Hi there Phat, maybe you feel this branch has nothing to do with the
    original thread but I think we are discussing packaging and how poor
    packaging may be the cause of early failure. As OP I was concerned that
    I may encounter early failure and wanted a way to force its early
    appearance before I put data on the drive.

    I recall receiving a hard drive from a supposedly reputable supplier in
    the UK which was just wrapped several times in bubble wrap and then put
    into an ordinary envelope. I am amazed i didn't get premature failure.

    OTOH if you see what Hitachi (I think it was) insist on being used for
    RMAs then you can see how the last-leg delivery from retailer to
    consumer might add to the early failures.
     
  15. And this was bad exactly why? (That's assuming it was still in it's antistatic bag)
    And why is that?
    Retail drives come in plastic containers (clamshells) or in boxes with only
    top and bottom place holders. The protection is in that they allow enough
    flexing to fully absorb or diminish any shock forces.

    A loosely wrapped OEM drive gets exactly that if the drive can move
    sufficiently within the layers of bubble wrap.
    If this were to be a problem many drives would be returned and that sup-
    plier would very quickly stop sending them this way if that were the case.
    Hitachi sends them back in a box with only two softplastic placeholders.
    My Seagate RMA's came back in a fully padded box, called a SeaShell.
     
  16. Rod Speed

    Rod Speed Guest

    Whoever was responsible for that name should be publicly flogged and then stoned to dead.
     
  17. kony

    kony Guest

    For one, had the drive been damaged or defective, the
    purchaser does not have suitable packaging to return ship
    it. One should not have to spend time or money to repack a
    product in a way other than it was sent to avoid possible
    warranty rejection.


    No, they do not fully absorb, somewhat diminish would be
    more appropriate. They are obviously suitable for general
    handling, but a lot can happen to a box between manufacturer
    and final delivery. Dropping it for example, though
    hopefully today's FDB bearing drives are more shock
    resistant than the old BB versions.
    Depends on how much bubble wrap and how well it was wrapped.
    I tend to doubt someone mass packing orders is going to take
    the utmost care with each and every one. It also means one
    more stage of human handling, another potential for it to be
    damaged _before_ securely wrapped up.

    Not necessarily, if the drive can survive in a working order
    but fails prematurely, say 1 year later, only the warrantor
    ever realizes it failed and since the warrantor probably
    didn't receive it re-wrapped in the same exact packaging,
    they wouldn't even know how the seller wrapped it. That is,
    unless some HDD manufacturers are now bulk packing with just
    bubblewrap but I suspect it would be shells and/or foam
    instead.
     
  18. Joe S

    Joe S Guest


    I am talkinh about electrical failure as well as mechanical failure.
    I guessed that alt.engineering.electrical knew more than a little
    about failure of electronic boards.

    That's true. But I don't want the backup to be on my new drive if it
    is likely to fail! IYSWIM.
     
  19. Joe S

    Joe S Guest

    I think I know what you mean but I guess you are much more of a martinet
    than I am!

    You say "Buy a reliable hard drive" to avoid problems with a backup on a
    new drive if it's likely to fail.

    What hard drive would you buy which you define as "reliable" such that
    it is more reliable than what I might have bought and will not fail in
    its early life?
     
  20. Mike T.

    Mike T. Guest

    ALL hard drive manufacturers produce duds here and there. That's why you
    will see some people speak out against IBM/Hitachi or Western Digital or
    ????? Those are the people who got burnt because they were unlucky enough
    to buy brand X at a time when brand X was not doing as well as would be
    hoped.

    But, over the long run, certain brands tend to be the cream of the crop.
    Your best bet is to buy Seagate or Western Digital. In fact, buy TWO of
    them, maybe one of each brand. Use one to boot off of, and get backup
    software to periodically copy everything to the other (or RAID it in a
    mirrored setup). Lately, Samsung has been making some pretty darned nice
    hard drives, also. But Seagate and WD both have more of a history of
    reliability, and are for the most part pretty rock-solid reliable, ignoring
    a few duds here and there (just like all brands) -Dave
     
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