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Wolfgang Allinger

Jan 1, 1970
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:) All was an old nickname for me, but I early quit this, after comming
in contact with english peoples :)

I'm trying to put together a new project and I my aim is to have a
long length of wire and it has to transmitt ultrasonic at low levels
along the length of the wire.

So to get me started I need to know what equipment I need to buy? I
realise its not that easy but I have to start somewhere.

Can anyone help?

My english isn't perfect, but do I understand, that you'll transmit,
emit, receive ultrasonic with a wire from/to the ambience?

I think, that's nearly impossible. Normally you emit US with some kind
of piezo cristals (with bad efficency), even electromagnic pulsers (EMP)
are possible (with much worser efficency) but I never heard of a wire,
which is able to emitting US easy. Maybe that there is some effect of
magnetostrictive things, but you shurely need lots of mW of power.

If you will use the wire only for transportation of the US, that will
work. US will travel on some kind of resistor-wire (Constantan ?), also
on other metall as steel or copper. But in all these applications, the
US is generated by piezo or EMP and it's not as easy to induce and much
harder to pickup that signal to/from wire. And the greater the diameter
of the material, the better it works. However, you could get reflections
from the end of the wire, which are sometimes not easy to kill/suppress.
A damper for US on wires is not an easy job.

Also having a constant sound speed is not easy, so Constantan mentioned.
I've made uC programms for transmitting US via 90..150m of strait
vertical pulled wire with high pull tension, just to measure the
position of elevator-cabins.

Saludos Wolfgang
 
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techcs

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi All,

I'm trying to put together a new project and I my aim is to have a
long length of wire and it has to transmitt ultrasonic at low levels
along the length of the wire.

So to get me started I need to know what equipment I need to buy? I
realise its not that easy but I have to start somewhere.

Can anyone help?

Cheers

Colin
 
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Bill Shymanski

Jan 1, 1970
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techcs said:
Hi All,

I'm trying to put together a new project and I my aim is to have a
long length of wire and it has to transmitt ultrasonic at low levels
along the length of the wire.

So to get me started I need to know what equipment I need to buy? I
realise its not that easy but I have to start somewhere.

Can anyone help?

Cheers

Colin

No, no-one can help. What is it you're trying to do? Ultrasonic SOUND?
Down a WIRE?

How long is a "long length of wire" ? Be aware that even the very best
co-axial cables have high attenuations and you're going to need booster
amplifiers ever few score kilometres. If you're crossing any
substantial bodies of water, you have to consider maintenance and
service aspects for these amplifiers, as well as high-voltage DC supply
to the ends of the cable. Have you started the environmental impact
statements and obtaining rights-of-way from the affected landowners?

Undoubtedly the best equipment for your specification is the Binford
6100.


Bill
 
Hi All,

I'm trying to put together a new project and I my aim is to have a
long length of wire and it has to transmitt ultrasonic at low levels
along the length of the wire.

So to get me started I need to know what equipment I need to buy? I
realise its not that easy but I have to start somewhere.

Can anyone help?

Cheers

Colin

You need to use for example this product:

http://www.meas-spec.com/myMeas/sensors/cable.asp

I do not think, that the effectivity will be significant, but it could
work, at least in water.
W. Bicz

www.optel.pl
 
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Wolfgang Allinger

Jan 1, 1970
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On Sep 9, 8:47 pm, [email protected] (Wolfgang Allinger) wrote:
THX, very interesting. I would not believe, that something will be
possible. So forget my rubbish about cables for transmitting US.
This is not necessary a rubbish. [...]

THX, you made my day :)

Saludos Wolfgang
 
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