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Nick Markowitz Jr.

Jan 1, 1970
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Well I finnaly got to see the fire system that was installed at my wifes
church by one of the big prominant alarm companys here in pittsburgh and i
would be embarrased and horrified to put my name on it. wire sloppily hung
all over the place and not properly secured and that goes for the conduit
and instead of using addressable smokes off the vista 128 panel they ran 4
wire smokes everywhere meaning extra cables every where what an embaarssment
the only reason ifigure they do not use addressable is becuse none of there
installers and techs are smart enough to use them . yea but they go around
calling them selves the fire alarm experts in pittsburgh and there the same
company that hanged a bull rope down a shaft to install fire wiring on it.
 
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Frank Olson

Jan 1, 1970
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Nick said:
Well I finnaly got to see the fire system that was installed at my wifes
church by one of the big prominant alarm companys here in pittsburgh and i
would be embarrased and horrified to put my name on it. wire sloppily hung
all over the place and not properly secured and that goes for the conduit
and instead of using addressable smokes off the vista 128 panel they ran 4
wire smokes everywhere meaning extra cables every where what an embaarssment
the only reason ifigure they do not use addressable is becuse none of there
installers and techs are smart enough to use them . yea but they go around
calling them selves the fire alarm experts in pittsburgh and there the same
company that hanged a bull rope down a shaft to install fire wiring on it.


That reminds me of an installation I saw the other day. Exposed fire
cable everywhere. Tacked to the bottom of beams and stretched across
open bays. I'm sure it was a "DIY" job and that there was never a
permit pulled. The amazing thing is that it was VERIFIED by the
equipment manufacturer. In Canada, the Verification Standard
(ULC/CAN4-S537) refers to the Installation Standard (ULC/CAN4-S524) and
the Building and Electrical Codes. Obviously the individual performing
the Verification Inspection decided to utilize his own standard. I
think most here call it a "paycheque" ("paycheck" for you folks in
"Bush-Land").
 
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Nick Markowitz Jr.

Jan 1, 1970
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The bad thing is city of Pittburgh passed it.
Frank Olson said:
That reminds me of an installation I saw the other day. Exposed fire
cable everywhere. Tacked to the bottom of beams and stretched across open
bays. I'm sure it was a "DIY" job and that there was never a permit
pulled. The amazing thing is that it was VERIFIED by the equipment
manufacturer. In Canada, the Verification Standard (ULC/CAN4-S537) refers
to the Installation Standard (ULC/CAN4-S524) and the Building and
Electrical Codes. Obviously the individual performing the Verification
Inspection decided to utilize his own standard. I think most here call it
a "paycheque" ("paycheck" for you folks in "Bush-Land").
 
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Robert L Bass

Jan 1, 1970
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Nick Markowitz Jr. said:
The bad thing is city of Pittburgh passed it.

Hi Nick,

How are you doing? Making progress against the C?
 
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Nick Markowitz Jr.

Jan 1, 1970
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Sick as dog this week had chemo again and 3 days of misery they put me on
champhor? from the other stuf and its terrible giving me all kinf=d of
strong anti nausea to stop it
 
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Frank Olson

Jan 1, 1970
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Nick said:
Sick as dog this week had chemo again and 3 days of misery they put me on
champhor? from the other stuf and its terrible giving me all kinf=d of
strong anti nausea to stop it


Really sorry you have to go through this. Keep up the good fight, Nick.
My thoughts and prayers are with you.
 
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Nick Markowitz Jr.

Jan 1, 1970
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I have 2 more treatements to go then surgery some time december or jan
doctors seems optomistic for me
I just hope my brother fireman jeff 32 with young children makes it he has
non hodkiss lymphma and has been given till christmas if he does not get a
bone marrow transplant were having a speghetti dinner for his family on 18th
to help with the costs.
 
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Robert L Bass

Jan 1, 1970
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Nick Markowitz Jr. said:
Sick as dog this week had chemo again and 3 days of misery they put
me on champhor? from the other stuf and its terrible giving me all
kind of strong anti nausea to stop it

I didn't know camphor was used in chemo. The whole ride stinks
though. They gave me "antiemitics" (not sure about the spelling) to
prevent nausea, too. That wasn't as bad as the Neulasta and it
helped when reading ASA sometimes.

Just keep going. You'll get through this crap and it does get better
after a while.
 
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Robert L Bass

Jan 1, 1970
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Nick Markowitz Jr. said:
I have 2 more treatements to go then surgery some time december or
jan doctors seems optomistic for me. I just hope my brother
fireman jeff 32 with young children makes it he has non hodkiss
lymphma and has been given till christmas if he does not get a bone
marrow transplant were having a speghetti dinner for his family on
18th to help with the costs.

My older brother (the one Leuck thinks is my son) also went through
it. He had the identical cancer to mine -- same type, same location
and same cause. By the time they found it he was stage IV. It went
from the lung to the brain and the lymphatic system. After brain
surgery the doctor came out and said the surgery was a success but he
wouldn't live more than 2-5 months. That was about 9 or 10 years
ago. Mike's still around and he's cancer free.

My wife and I are praying for you. I don't know if/what you believe
but this is one of those rare instances where I agree with Olson.
Don't give up.
 
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Doug

Jan 1, 1970
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RLB never allows the truth to get in the way.

Doug

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