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Discussion in 'Electronic Repair' started by Live Bait McKinney, May 18, 2004.

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  1. (First, if you want to contact me by email, pls send to
    -- never check yahoo.)

    Greetings! Common problem. Tape stuck in the VCR.

    Trying to avoid the $80 repair shop or $20 service manual (parts lists
    and schematics only).

    Symptoms:
    Turn on the power -- motor spins then stops.
    Hit eject - first time, "EJECT" appears on screen but no motor or
    eject.
    Every time after that, no "EJECT" on screen, no sound of motor
    spinning.
    Same using remote control or front panel.

    Tried unplugging power cable... and back in. Same story.

    This is one of the TV/VCR combos (Panasonic PVQ-2512 -- similiar to
    PVQ-1312W, PVQ-2012. Bought Dec 2002 - now 5 months out of warranty.
    Repair cost is $80 (minimum charge) at the local authorized station.
    It's not worth that much to me since this is a 2-head and stand-alone
    4-head VCR's are that price or lower.


    ~~~~~~~~~~~

    For others looking at a Panasonic TV/VCR combo unit, I'll give you
    some feedback from my own use of this one -- Purchased Dec 2002 -- low
    usage for past 17 months.

    I almost returned this the first day because, after taking it out and
    setting it up, I found out you can't watch one channel and record
    another. Since this is one of the main reasons for buying a VCR, I
    should've taken it back and gotten the TV only version. Wish they had
    stated that on the box. "Marketing communications" at work. Decided to
    keep it and get a 2nd VCR for copying tapes, etc.

    About the TV, the CRT picture is great - no complaints there. Sound is
    good and there are jacks on the front panel.

    When you switch channels with the remote, there is a 1/4-second
    black-out which is OK during the day, hard on the eyes in a dark room.

    But (and this is a big butt) I have had it 17 months, little VCR use
    and, besides the tape mechanism problem, when you start to record, the
    tape rewinds about 3-minutes of tape, then starts, so, unless you let
    the tape run an extra 3 minutes, you can chop off the last 3 minutes
    of the previous program. The way I look at it, this is one of those
    "it's a pain but you get used to" problems.

    The remote control is not intuitive, like their other products. I have
    never had trouble learning or using many other VCRs, including my last
    Panasonic, but (another big butt) this one is not very user friendly.
    The buttons are not logically grouped, etc. etc. If everything else
    was OK, probably would just buy a universal remote.

    What else.... Panasonic usually makes such great products -- I am
    still amazed at the problems with this one. I notice this one was made
    in Mexico - doubt that makes any difference on the design though. I
    have a Samslung TV (1992) made in Mexico that takes a licking and
    keeps on ticking.
     
  2. RonKZ650

    RonKZ650 Guest

    Common problem was the drive rack/cam gear wearing. It's not a do it yourself
    repair.
    The model you got is a pretty good combo. No combo ever built can record one
    channel while you watch another because they only have one tuner, so you can't
    blame Panasonic for that.
    The main problem with any combo is the VCR. Stay with separate components for
    better reliability.
    Ron
     
  3. Art

    Art Guest

    All depends how much you value your tape. You can attempt taking it out
    yourself and risk damaging the tape and mechanism further or cut to the
    chase and pay to have it done for you. A combo units from the FUNAI to the
    other classic brands like Brocksonic, Zenith, Sharp, Panasonic, et al fin,
    will tend to have mechanical problems far before they have electrical
    failures. Due to the fact that most all vcr mechanisms are basically plastic
    and do break with even moderate use. As far as the features of the product
    you willingly purchased, all combo units use a single tuner.
     
  4. KLM

    KLM Guest

    For $80 you can buy a new VCR and return/exchange that under warranty
    if it craps out fast. For $80 + $20 you can even buy a better made
    one although there is not really that much difference between them
    once behind the covers.

    Might as well use your present VCR as a learning exercise. A stuck
    tape is a mechanical problem where you can actually observe the
    sequence of the problem developing. Open the covers and knock
    yourself out.
     
  5. Sofie

    Sofie Guest

    Live Bait McKinney:

    This is not a do-it-yourself repair for the inexperienced. Improper
    dis-assembly can cause expensive damage. Find another shop with a better
    price.

    As far as not being able to view one channel while recording another
    channel...... you can NOT do this with any available TV-VCR combo because
    they all have just one TUNER circuit that is shared between the TV and VCR.

    Obviously NO manufacturer would indicate in their literature or on the box
    exactly what the VCR will NOT do...... nobody does that ! For example, a
    cheap mono TV won't tell you in precise words that it will not produce
    stereo sound, that it doesn't have a comb filter, that it doesn't have
    picture-in-picture, that it is not multi-standard and multi-voltage, that it
    doesn't have A/V input and output jacks, or an S-Video jack, or SCART
    connectors, etc.

    Buyer beware and identify features that you want and are willing to
    purchase..... the more you want, the more you will pay.
     
  6. sherwood

    sherwood Guest

    Turn on the power -- motor spins then stops.
    Probably a longshot, but look inside the VCR front door with a
    flashlight to make sure there is not something stuck in there, like part
    of a tape label, sticker or something. The combo units from Panasonic
    are a major pain to disassemble. They obviously designed them without
    easy serviceability in mind. I always thought they should have made them
    so that the VCR mechanism would slide out through the front, kind of
    like the old "docking" portable models. Would obviously make it a lot
    easier to do a cleaning or any other maintenance work. But that would of
    coarse cost $$ and today it is all about "cheap".

    I totally agree with you. I have been a Panasonic fan for decades and
    have always loved their products. But one area they severely lack in is
    remote control design. They must have total morons designing these,
    obviously people who never use them. It's like they put all of the
    buttons in a hat, mixed them up, and then tossed them onto the design
    sheet in whatever order they landed. They are not laid out logically at
    all. Buttons that you always use are inconvenient to use and buttons
    that you never use are in the easiest to reach locations. Ever tried to
    find the miniature "Pause" button in a dark room?

    One of the worst and most frustrating design goofs is on several of the
    VCR remotes. Located on the bottom left is a button labeled "SAP/Hi-Fi".
    The problem? Right next to it are the Volume Up/Down buttons, ones that
    you use ALL the time. The buttons are so tiny that is is incredibly easy
    to hit the SAP/Hi-Fi button, and of course the next sequence for that
    button switches it to "SAP". That's not as much of a problem if you are
    watching a movie as you would see the on-screen display pop up. But if
    you are watching TV with the VCR on, as I do a lot (waiting to record
    something coming up for example), and you hit the button, you
    unknowingly hit this SAP button and put it in the SAP mode. Then what
    happens is when you go to record a show you have NO AUDIO!! I can't tell
    you how many shows I have recorded only to find out when I go to watch
    them there is no sound. Talk about pissed off. I cus those Japanese
    moron engineers everytime this happens, not believing how someone could
    be so STUPID to design something like this. Like MOST people I will
    NEVER use SAP in my lifetime. Common sense would dictate to put this
    feature in a on screen menu so it could not be accidentally selected by
    mistake. I may end up having to take the remote apart and cut off the
    button or place a barrier there so it no longer is functional. I am
    tired of having to verify that I have audio everytime I record a
    program.

    That's just one of my "remote" complaints, I could go on forever. The
    DVD remotes are just as bad. I guess they figure everyone has
    "magnification vision" and that everyone can see in the dark (you know,
    how everyone watches TV most often). The most used buttons should be
    larger and in a convenient location - like Play/FF/RW Pause and Record.
    But noooooo, they just put them anywhere they feel like it.
    Unbelieveable from a company such as Panasonic.

    SW
     
  7. I agree with you 100 percent. I have never owned a combo TV/VCR
    and do not intend to--they work well when they are right, but are just
    too much trouble to repair when the VCR goes and, as I am about to
    explain, some VCR problems in these combos can render the TV useless
    as well. A friend of mine had a Symphonic 13" TV/VCR combo a few years
    ago; a tape jammed in the VCR, immediately rendering it and the TV
    useless (the jammed tape caused the VCR's motor to draw so much
    current it dropped the output voltage to a point where the supply
    would not so much as operate the TV, let alone the VCR.) My friend has
    since gotten a new TV and uses a separate VCR with it; no problems so
    far. My own audio/video system consists of separate components as
    well (Aiwa shelf stereo, RCA 19" TV, Panasonic VCR, Motorola digital
    cable box)--no problems whatsoever with anything but one component in
    the last couple years. Had to replace the VCR about two years ago
    (tape stuck in the one I had; I tried to get it out, but wound up
    wrecking the machine in the process). Since everything in my system is
    separate from and independent of one another, it was only a matter of
    connecting two cables to the new VCR, setting it back onto the shelf
    under the TV (it, the TV and cable box are on a modified utility
    cart), plugging it in, turning it on--and I was back in business. (The
    then-new Panasonic VCR, as well as the one it replaced, has an
    automatic setup function which makes initial setup a breeze--all one
    has to do is connect the machine to the TV and antenna or cable, turn
    everything on, and in a matter of seconds the VCR is ready for
    immediate use--no fiddling with channel mapping, clock setting or
    anything else.)

    The inability to watch one channel and record another with a TV/VCR
    combo is yet another reason I don't like these units. They are
    space-savers, to be sure, but they have their drawbacks, as has been
    noted here. Some of the better (and, of course, more expensive) units
    are made with external A/V jacks, to which a separate external VCR may
    be connected if the one built into the combo goes West for any reason.
    This arrangement is usually found in 19- and 25-inch combos, but I
    suppose there have been 13" models with external A/V connections as
    well, made by manufacturers such as Zenith (pre-GS models), Panasonic,
    etc.

    Kind regards,
    Jeff, WB8NHV (mailto: )
    Fairport Harbor, Ohio
     
  8. Bill

    Bill Guest

    Bzzzzzt! Wrong answer.
     
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