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TAFE NSW 366 Electronic Technology Adv Diploma- ????

Discussion in 'Hobby Electronics' started by Terry Collins, Feb 6, 2006.

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  1. Is this course any good?
    Older guy looking to improve practical knowledge for mainly hobby design
    and construction

    If you've taken the course, can you pass an opinion as to whether most
    of the course work can be done by yourself? Not keen on weekly trips on
    multiple sydney trains to complete it. Yes, I know Open Tafe offers part
    of it, but frankly the number of subjects offered is low and almost all
    require physical trips.

    TIA
     
  2. Ed -

    Ed - Guest

    I would suggest that if you don't need the piece of paper then only some
    of the modules will be of interest, there will be maths, more maths and
    other units with interesting names which turn out to be maths again.

    get a list of all the modules and post them here.

    : Is this course any good?
    : Older guy looking to improve practical knowledge for mainly hobby
    design
    : and construction
    :
    : If you've taken the course, can you pass an opinion as to whether most
    : of the course work can be done by yourself? Not keen on weekly trips
    on
    : multiple sydney trains to complete it. Yes, I know Open Tafe offers
    part
    : of it, but frankly the number of subjects offered is low and almost
    all
    : require physical trips.
    :
    : TIA
    :
     
  3. Don't tell me. They teach maths at TAFE? I'd never had guessed it. :p
    Last part time lecturing I did at TAFE (Electronics), the average idiot
    student couldn't work out anything without a calculator. Even then they
    seem to get it wrong.

    It would appear that even approximating the answer (as so to gauge what to
    expect the calculator to work it out to be) is beyond most school leavers.
    :-(

    Sad really. Especially when you have something simple like a circuit with
    two series resistors. One is 100 ohms, the other 220 ohms. The applied
    voltage (end to end) across the network is 10 volts. Calculate the expected
    voltage drop across the 100 ohm resistor. You get answers like 5 volts.

    So what sort of maths do they teach at TAFE these days. Fibbonachi
    (Fibonacci) sequences?

    Cheers,
    Alan
     
  4. Late 90's and I did some surveying subjects as part of an Ass Dip Civil
    Engineering and the course should have been called "Something" with
    Casio Calculators. They basically taught the students how to do the
    calculations with a Casio calculators. It was even examinable.

    Rather funny for me because I'm too used to HP calcs and RPN {:), so I
    just had to convert everything.
    My wife occassionally helps the neighbourhood kids (primary & high
    school) with their maths. I just have to leave before I say anything.
    Wild, erratic guesses all the time.

    Basically, most of these kids do not know their times table, and they
    are continually hung up on that. So when something else is taught, they
    are screwing around wasting all their efforts around trying to do a
    simple calculations and not learning the other stuff.
     
  5. err, I was actually interested in doing some of the maths (again) to
    gently get the brain working. It has been about 15 years since I last
    did any serious study. The problem is going to be "wait a minute, you
    have a maths exemption from previous study" {:)

    All I've done in the last three years is exams that consisted of 6
    multiple choice questions (4 options).

    It actually took 2 years to get some one to finally supply a full list
    of possible modules (you then have to find a college offering the
    module), but it is too long to transcribe all 6 pages.

    Oten (correspondence) only offers a few useful subjects and lots of
    engineering management, quality management, job seeking, negotiation,
    etc options.

    What I was trying to determine was if I stood a chance of convincing the
    actual TAFE college offering the other subjects to allow me to enrol,
    and work at my own pace, without having to attend each week. I know it
    will depend on the subject, but surely there must be more subjects than
    what Oten offers.

    e.g.

    6032G Control programming style
    6032B Industrial computer systems
    7761AU Communication fundamentals (english or data)
    7761R Data communications
    8271S Microprocessor fundamentals
    7763K Electronic software tools.

    They are the Group 1 Core Modules that Oten does not offer.


    On the other hand, there are 22 technician level subjects you can do
    that include TV (10 subjects), VCR (5 subjects), computer monitors,
    camcorders and PCB (2 subjects; design & fab) which could be practical
    and worth attending.
     
  6. Geez Terry, Your showing your age saying things like RPN. I remember
    the old HP calulator with the red LED (IIRC) displays. They may well
    have been VFD, my memory is bad.

    These days i am not sure if i could use a clculator. Win calc maybe,
    but Excel and mathcad and c take all the fun out of it.
     
  7. Ed -

    Ed - Guest

    go in and ask about which modules they offer as flexable learning

    for example: 6032B Industrial computer systems
    1 or 2 classes in each of:

    ms word
    ms access
    ms excel
    ms powerpoint
    ms frontpage

    not very indepth in the short time allowed but easy to do at home
     
  8. James

    James Guest

    Hello Terry,

    OK. Some of the subject names and numbers are familiar

    6032G - Control Programming Style. This was a basic introduction to
    programming a PC in DOS using the programming language 'C'. C++ was offered
    as an advanced course!

    6032B - Industrial Computer Systems. This is a introduction to Microsoft
    Word and Microsoft Excel for engineering students. There was also a bit DOS
    and some shell programming.

    7761AU - Communication Fundamentals. This was a basic communications course.
    It brushed on AM and FM communication, antenna's, spectrum and others... Not
    very in depth.

    8271S - Microprocessor Fundamentals. This started out as an introduction to
    digital (Gates and stuff) but very quickly moved to a specific microprocess
    and examined its architecture and instruction set. Not bad.

    7763K - Electronic Software Tools. Have a feeling this is Mathematica. I
    know that I did the course but I don't have any notes on my PC. This gives
    me the feeling that this is that subject. I simply could not justify buying
    the software package for home use just to get through the subject, hence no
    notes.

    Hope this helps!
    James
     
  9. Muchly, thanks guys.
    That definitely give me some information to barter with. In the past
    I've politely said "It is too basic, I just prefer to demonstrate my
    compentency by a project. what do you want?"
     
  10. eeviil inc.

    eeviil inc. Guest

    All thats taught in the Surveying subjects at tafe these days is RPN
    with the HPs these days.

    Adam
     
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