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Sonbo

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi all,
I'm interested in learning alarms, I am looking to buy one used on eBay and
looking for a model that would give me an over all understanding of what's
involved in setting them up.

Is this feasible and what brand model would you guys recommend I look for ?

Thanks

S.D
 
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Bob Worthy

Jan 1, 1970
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Sonbo said:
Hi all,
I'm interested in learning alarms, I am looking to buy one used on eBay and
looking for a model that would give me an over all understanding of what's
involved in setting them up.

Is this feasible and what brand model would you guys recommend I look for
?

One from a local alarm company. They will teach you everything there is to
know about the use of the system when they are done installing it.
 
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Stanley Barthfarkle

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi all,
I'm interested in learning alarms, I am looking to buy one used on eBay
and
looking for a model that would give me an over all understanding of what's
involved in setting them up.

Is this feasible and what brand model would you guys recommend I look for
?



Took me 4 years to get a reasonable understanding of the basics and some
finer points, such as proper detector placement. If you can install a
reliable, trouble-free system on your first try, then you're a better man
than most.
 
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Charles Schuler

Jan 1, 1970
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Sonbo said:
Hi all,
I'm interested in learning alarms, I am looking to buy one used on eBay
and
looking for a model that would give me an over all understanding of what's
involved in setting them up.

Is this feasible and what brand model would you guys recommend I look for
?

Thanks

You could be misled here because these folks are mostly professionals and
jealously guard their turf.

Here is my suggestion (I am a do-it-your-selfer that was forced to be so by
the crappy treatment I received by the PROs).

http://www.homesecuritystore.com/

If you buy a system from the above, they will hand-hold you via email and
you will learn a lot! That was my experience.
 
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Bob Worthy

Jan 1, 1970
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Charles Schuler said:
You could be misled here because these folks are mostly professionals and
jealously guard their turf.

No one knows where this guy is from, so jealously guarding turf is not an
issue. There are definately some handy individuals but everyone's
capabilities are much different. Some may have a great interest in alarm
systems but don't which end of a screwdriver to use. To just arbitrarily
start instucting someone over the internet or telephone on installing
personal and/or life safety equipment is very very wrong, regardless of your
personal view point. Granted there are those online companies that sell
equipment, but that is all they are doing. They sell equipment, they do not
sell security.
Here is my suggestion (I am a do-it-your-selfer that was forced to be so by
the crappy treatment I received by the PROs)

A Pro or Pros. How many times did you have professional alarm companies
install and service you? My guess is you had a (one) bad experience. And
whom may that have been. You can easily find, right here, who to avoid. Your
statement is hardly fair to a 140 year old industry with over 4000
legitimate alarm companys in the US.
http://www.homesecuritystore.com/

If you buy a system from the above, they will hand-hold you via email and
you will learn a lot! That was my experience.

Again, not for everyone. I will guarantee you, remembering some of your
post, considering your time, you probably have, many times more dollars
invested, than if you had a pro do it. And unfortunately, if it should ever
fail and something tragic happens, who in the family will question, "would
this have happened if a pro did it?"
 
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Crash Gordon

Jan 1, 1970
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Free: start by reading alarm installation and programming manuals to see if
this is something you really want to learn/do.



| Hi all,
| I'm interested in learning alarms, I am looking to buy one used on eBay
and
| looking for a model that would give me an over all understanding of what's
| involved in setting them up.
|
| Is this feasible and what brand model would you guys recommend I look for
?
|
| Thanks
|
| S.D
|
|
 
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Crash Gordon

Jan 1, 1970
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Me too.....be glad to get rid of 'em.


|
| >Hi all,
| >I'm interested in learning alarms, I am looking to buy one used on eBay
and
| >looking for a model that would give me an over all understanding of
what's
| >involved in setting them up.
| >
| >Is this feasible and what brand model would you guys recommend I look for
?
| >
|
|
| I'll send you a few panels and keypads if you pay shipping via paypal
|
| .
|
| --
|
| -Graham
| (remove the double e's to email)
 
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Robert L Bass

Jan 1, 1970
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I'm interested in learning alarms, I am looking to buy one used on eBay and
looking for a model that would give me an over all understanding of what's
involved in setting them up.

Ademco (now part of Honeywell) makes some decent, easy to install and configure systems. Their Vista-20P is popular. You can
probably pick one up on eBay for $100 or so. You'll need at least one model 6160 keypad to program the system once you have it
installed.

Napco security makes some very powerful, flexible systems as well. They're easy to install but more complicated to program.

One possible problem is that some unscrupulous alarm dealers have been known to unload "locked" panels on eBay. They acquire a used
panel during the takeover of an account that was installed by another alarm company, find it's been locked and then dump it on the
auction site.

Some end users have been known to do the same thing as well. If you pay by credit card, at least you have the option of challenging
the charges afterward should something go wrong.

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>
 
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Robert L Bass

Jan 1, 1970
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Free: start by reading alarm installation and
programming manuals to see if this is
something you really want to learn/do.

Excellent advice, Crash. If the gentleman would like to have access to tons of manuals online, I'd be glad to help him out.

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

=============================>
Bass Home Electronics
4883 Fallcrest Circle
Sarasota · Florida · 34233
http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
=============================>
 
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Don

Jan 1, 1970
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Robert L Bass said:
Some end users have been known to do the same thing as well.

sounds like youve been watching fox news.

bass reports, you decide.
 
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Crash Gordon

Jan 1, 1970
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I have some DSC stuff and couple of old Napcos.


|
| > I'll send you a few panels and keypads if you pay shipping via paypal
|
|
| What kind? I might be interested in some used stuff for my rental
| properties.
|
|
 
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Frank Olson

Jan 1, 1970
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Robert said:
One possible problem is that some unscrupulous alarm dealers have been known to unload "locked" panels on eBay. They acquire a used
panel during the takeover of an account that was installed by another alarm company, find it's been locked and then dump it on the
auction site.

That, sir, is a fairy tale. If you're a seller on eBay you're more
concerned with your reputation (and receiving positive feedback).
Unlike you, of course. How many BBB complaints is it now?? 25??

Some end users have been known to do the same thing as well. If you pay by credit card, at least you have the option of challenging
the charges afterward should something go wrong.

If you do anything through eBay, they have their own buyer protection
policy. If you're going to buy alarm parts (on eBay), check out the
sellers reputation. If you're going to purchase product online (from
*any* vendor), look for the "BBB Online" logo. That, at least, assures
you that they address customer concerns promptly and efficiently (and
that they actually *answer* their phones and email).
 
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Charles Schuler

Jan 1, 1970
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Did not mean to offend anyone here or trash an entire industry.

I had excellent experiences with pros up north and poor experiences with
pros in SW FL. This newsgroup is mostly helpful, BTW.

Reading the OP's message strongly suggests he is motivated and one can be
kind and not question his ability to use basic tools.
 
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Don

Jan 1, 1970
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Charles Schuler said:
Did not mean to offend anyone here or trash an entire industry.

I had excellent experiences with pros up north and poor experiences with
pros in SW FL. This newsgroup is mostly helpful, BTW.

Reading the OP's message strongly suggests he is motivated and one can be
kind and not question his ability to use basic tools.

who is SW Fl? Maybe someone I know?
 
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