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Ziggy

Jan 1, 1970
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I have a Gemini 816 series panel with two keypads model RP1CAe2. One
keypad, the main one we use when entering and leaving the house is not
working properly, it seems that when we press numbers on the keypad it
does not recognize them or I have to press it a few times before it
works. I assume after time the keypad becomes worn out?

How do I change it, do I just buy a new one and replace it or are
there other steps that I need to do first?

Thanks in advance

Steven
 
B

Bob La Londe

Jan 1, 1970
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Ziggy said:
I have a Gemini 816 series panel with two keypads model RP1CAe2. One
keypad, the main one we use when entering and leaving the house is not
working properly, it seems that when we press numbers on the keypad it
does not recognize them or I have to press it a few times before it
works. I assume after time the keypad becomes worn out?

How do I change it, do I just buy a new one and replace it or are
there other steps that I need to do first?

Thanks in advance

Steven


Just one keypad? Any expansion zones used on it?

If no and no then yes unless a keypad compatibility number has been set.

If no and yes, yes and no, or yes and yes then some keypad setup of the
keypad may be required. Also if a keypad compatibility number has been set
then setup will be required.

Ask the party selling you the keypad to step you through it and you should
be able to handle it.


--
Sincerly,
The guy who makes the final decision on who we buy from.
Bob La Londe

The Security Consultant
Bob La Londe - Owner
P.O. Box 5720
Yuma, Az 85366

(928) 782-9765 ofc
(928) 782-7873 fax

Licensed Contractor
ROC103044 & ROC103047
 
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Jim

Jan 1, 1970
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I have a Gemini 816 series panel with two keypads model RP1CAe2. One
keypad, the main one we use when entering and leaving the house is not
working properly, it seems that when we press numbers on the keypad it
does not recognize them or I have to press it a few times before it
works. I assume after time the keypad becomes worn out?

How do I change it, do I just buy a new one and replace it or are
there other steps that I need to do first?

Thanks in advance

Steven

Also, if you do reach the point that you are changing the keypad, make
sure that you use the same series. If you have the "K" serries,
keypads, you have to replace the bad keypad with a "K" series keypad.
Or, the original series kepad with an original. You can tell the
difference in that the old series has an ON/OFF button and the K
series has an ENTER button.
 
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Ziggy

Jan 1, 1970
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Also, if you do reach the point that you are changing the keypad, make
sure that you use the same series. If you have the "K" serries,
keypads, you have to replace the bad keypad with a "K" series keypad.
Or, the original series kepad with an original. You can tell the
difference in that the old series has an ON/OFF button and the K
series has an ENTER button.

Thanks for the info. Does this keypad have this happen often that
after a few years of use they keys no longer work?
 
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Bob La Londe

Jan 1, 1970
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Ziggy said:
Thanks for the info. Does this keypad have this happen often that
after a few years of use they keys no longer work?


I have hundreds of RP1CAe2 keypas in service. I don't recall replacing any
with bad keys.
 
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Crash Gordon

Jan 1, 1970
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Sometimes.
Easy and cheapest fix is to change your code so you're not using the worn
out key(s).



| >
| > > I have a Gemini 816 series panel with two keypads model RP1CAe2. One
| > > keypad, the main one we use when entering and leaving the house is not
| > > working properly, it seems that when we press numbers on the keypad it
| > > does not recognize them or I have to press it a few times before it
| > > works. I assume after time the keypad becomes worn out?
| >
| > > How do I change it, do I just buy a new one and replace it or are
| > > there other steps that I need to do first?
| >
| > > Thanks in advance
| >
| > > Steven
| >
| > Also, if you do reach the point that you are changing the keypad, make
| > sure that you use the same series. If you have the "K" serries,
| > keypads, you have to replace the bad keypad with a "K" series keypad.
| > Or, the original series kepad with an original. You can tell the
| > difference in that the old series has an ON/OFF button and the K
| > series has an ENTER button.
|
| Thanks for the info. Does this keypad have this happen often that
| after a few years of use they keys no longer work?
|
 
B

Bob La Londe

Jan 1, 1970
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Bob La Londe said:
I have hundreds of RP1CAe2 keypas in service. I don't recall replacing
any with bad keys.

I have had to replace a few keypads in places where there are a lot of
smokers. The keypads seem to get a film of "ick" on and in them. Had to
replace and repair floppy and CD-ROM drives on computers for the same reason
back when I worked on computers.


--
Sincerly,
The guy who makes the final decision on who we buy from.
Bob La Londe

The Security Consultant
Bob La Londe - Owner
P.O. Box 5720
Yuma, Az 85366

(928) 782-9765 ofc
(928) 782-7873 fax

Licensed Contractor
ROC103044 & ROC103047
 
J

Jim

Jan 1, 1970
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Thanks for the info. Does this keypad have this happen often that
after a few years of use they keys no longer work?- Hide quoted text -
I've been using Napco for about 30 years. Sometimes keypads don't last
as long as others. I find that when repetitive numbers are used they
wear out sooner. If you think about it ..... all you really have to do
is pick four new numbers or just change the "bad" number in your code
and you'll be ok. Rather than buying a new keypad.
 
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Tommy

Jan 1, 1970
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Bob,
do those keypads have the little rubberbuttons with the carbon on the back
to make the button circuit? I don't use the gemini panels, so i have no
experience. I have used a pencil eraser to clean the contacts on the circuit
board and get a little more life out of the keypad. usually just enough to
get a new one in and schedule a service call.
 
S

secure15

Jan 1, 1970
0
Do a Google for Mike Sandman the Telco guy from Chicago area. He has
cleaning kits for phones, keypads etc.
Bob,
do those keypads have the little rubberbuttons with the carbon on the back
to make the button circuit? I don't use the gemini panels, so i have no
experience. I have used a pencil eraser to clean the contacts on the circuit
board and get a little more life out of the keypad. usually just enough to
get a new one in and schedule a service call.
 
J

Jim

Jan 1, 1970
0
Bob,
do those keypads have the little rubberbuttons with the carbon on the back
to make the button circuit?  I don't use the gemini panels, so i have no
experience. I have used a pencil eraser to clean the contacts on the circuit
board and get a little more life out of the keypad. usually just enough to
get a new one in and schedule a service call.
I've done that a time or two, but the Napco keypads take awhile to
disassemble and put back together. There's a number of little pieces ,
LED masks, etc that all have to be lined up when you reassemble. Pain
in the butt and you don't know if it's going to work or not after all
the trouble of taking it apart.

A pencil eraser and a little bit of alcohol does the trick as far as
cleaning the copper trace on the mylar. The problem is, it's usually
the carbon that has worn away or sometimes the mylar is distorted ( I
guess from pressing the keys too hard) and makes contact, without the
key being depressed or it makes contact at the same time, when you
push an adjacent button.

Changing the numbers seems to be the most successful recommendation.
But eventually it's going to happen again.
 
T

Tommy

Jan 1, 1970
0
My step-father used to repair televisions before he retired. he used a kit
of some sort to recoat the buttons on some remotes. He did say that it was
more trouble than it was worth though.


Bob,
do those keypads have the little rubberbuttons with the carbon on the back
to make the button circuit? I don't use the gemini panels, so i have no
experience. I have used a pencil eraser to clean the contacts on the
circuit
board and get a little more life out of the keypad. usually just enough to
get a new one in and schedule a service call.
I've done that a time or two, but the Napco keypads take awhile to
disassemble and put back together. There's a number of little pieces ,
LED masks, etc that all have to be lined up when you reassemble. Pain
in the butt and you don't know if it's going to work or not after all
the trouble of taking it apart.

A pencil eraser and a little bit of alcohol does the trick as far as
cleaning the copper trace on the mylar. The problem is, it's usually
the carbon that has worn away or sometimes the mylar is distorted ( I
guess from pressing the keys too hard) and makes contact, without the
key being depressed or it makes contact at the same time, when you
push an adjacent button.

Changing the numbers seems to be the most successful recommendation.
But eventually it's going to happen again.
 
C

Crash Gordon

Jan 1, 1970
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I still have 2 800's out there that are limping along...the owners are
almost out of alternative keypad digit choices.



Thanks for the info. Does this keypad have this happen often that
after a few years of use they keys no longer work?- Hide quoted text -
I've been using Napco for about 30 years. Sometimes keypads don't last
as long as others. I find that when repetitive numbers are used they
wear out sooner. If you think about it ..... all you really have to do
is pick four new numbers or just change the "bad" number in your code
and you'll be ok. Rather than buying a new keypad.
 
C

Crash Gordon

Jan 1, 1970
0
Geez, more dinosaurs.

I need a keyfob for Toyota RAV4 2000 RS3200 alarm..just the fob...thats what
I really need right now.

| They've got one listed on Ebay
|
|
http://cgi.ebay.com/napco-800-825-9...ryZ41969QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
|
| | > I still have 2 800's out there that are limping along...the owners are
| > almost out of alternative keypad digit choices.
| >
| >
| >
| > | > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > > > > I have a Gemini 816 series panel with two keypads model RP1CAe2.
One
| > > > > keypad, the main one we use when entering and leaving the house is
| not
| > > > > working properly, it seems that when we press numbers on the
keypad
| it
| > > > > does not recognize them or I have to press it a few times before
it
| > > > > works. I assume after time the keypad becomes worn out?
| > >
| > > > > How do I change it, do I just buy a new one and replace it or are
| > > > > there other steps that I need to do first?
| > >
| > > > > Thanks in advance
| > >
| > > > > Steven
| > >
| > > > Also, if you do reach the point that you are changing the keypad,
make
| > > > sure that you use the same series. If you have the "K" serries,
| > > > keypads, you have to replace the bad keypad with a "K" series
keypad.
| > > > Or, the original series kepad with an original. You can tell the
| > > > difference in that the old series has an ON/OFF button and the K
| > > > series has an ENTER button.
| > >
| > > Thanks for the info. Does this keypad have this happen often that
| > > after a few years of use they keys no longer work?- Hide quoted text -
| > >
| > I've been using Napco for about 30 years. Sometimes keypads don't last
| > as long as others. I find that when repetitive numbers are used they
| > wear out sooner. If you think about it ..... all you really have to do
| > is pick four new numbers or just change the "bad" number in your code
| > and you'll be ok. Rather than buying a new keypad.
| >
| >
|
|
 
C

Crash Gordon

Jan 1, 1970
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Thanks, I've been watching those...kinda steep for just needing the fob
though.


| http://search.ebay.com/rs3200
|
| | > Geez, more dinosaurs.
| >
| > I need a keyfob for Toyota RAV4 2000 RS3200 alarm..just the fob...thats
| what
| > I really need right now.
| >
| > | > | They've got one listed on Ebay
| > |
| > |
| >
|
http://cgi.ebay.com/napco-800-825-9...ryZ41969QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
| > |
| > | | > | > I still have 2 800's out there that are limping along...the owners
are
| > | > almost out of alternative keypad digit choices.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | > > > > I have a Gemini 816 series panel with two keypads model
RP1CAe2.
| > One
| > | > > > > keypad, the main one we use when entering and leaving the
house
| is
| > | not
| > | > > > > working properly, it seems that when we press numbers on the
| > keypad
| > | it
| > | > > > > does not recognize them or I have to press it a few times
before
| > it
| > | > > > > works. I assume after time the keypad becomes worn out?
| > | > >
| > | > > > > How do I change it, do I just buy a new one and replace it or
| are
| > | > > > > there other steps that I need to do first?
| > | > >
| > | > > > > Thanks in advance
| > | > >
| > | > > > > Steven
| > | > >
| > | > > > Also, if you do reach the point that you are changing the
keypad,
| > make
| > | > > > sure that you use the same series. If you have the "K" serries,
| > | > > > keypads, you have to replace the bad keypad with a "K" series
| > keypad.
| > | > > > Or, the original series kepad with an original. You can tell the
| > | > > > difference in that the old series has an ON/OFF button and the K
| > | > > > series has an ENTER button.
| > | > >
| > | > > Thanks for the info. Does this keypad have this happen often that
| > | > > after a few years of use they keys no longer work?- Hide quoted
| text -
| > | > >
| > | > I've been using Napco for about 30 years. Sometimes keypads don't
last
| > | > as long as others. I find that when repetitive numbers are used they
| > | > wear out sooner. If you think about it ..... all you really have to
do
| > | > is pick four new numbers or just change the "bad" number in your
code
| > | > and you'll be ok. Rather than buying a new keypad.
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
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