westom said:
Bud's job is
to promote plug-in protectors.
Lacking any valid technical arguments westom attacks those who challenge
his nonsense.
So he will say anything to avoid that
reality.
westom will say anything to avoid the reality that plug-in suppressors
are effective.
The IEEE, NIST, General Electric, Siemens, Leviton, Intermatic, Keison,
and Square D all say they are.
Every responsible source discusses earth as the means of
eliminating those voltage differences.
It is the religious belief (immune from challenge) in earthing.
Everyone is in favor of earthing.
And every responsible source says plug-in suppressors are effective.
The IEEE surge guide explains, for those that can think, that plug-in
suppressors work primarily by clamping the voltage on each wire to the
ground at the suppressor, not earthing. The IEEE says earthing occurs
elsewhere in the system.
To do that means the protector must connect even direct lightning
strikes harmlessly to earth. To connect 20,000 amps (a typical
lightning strike) harmlessly to earth means, at minimum, a 50,000 amps
protector. At 24,000 amps, you would need two of those Grainger
protectors just to do a minimum.
A 20,000A direct lightning strike to a power line will have multiple
paths to earth. The maximum surge current to a house from a much more
powerful lightning is 10,000A according to accepted standards.
The IEEE surge guide recommends - for homes - ratings of 20-70kA, or for
high lightning areas 40-120kA.
westom, of course, is smarter than the IEEE.
More responsible companies make these 'whole house' protector
including General Electric, Siemens, Leviton, Intermatic, Keison, and
Square D.
All these "responsible companies" except SquareD make plug-in suppressors.
SquareD says for their "best" service panel suppressor "electronic
equipment may need additional protection by installing plug-in
[suppressors] at the point of use."
Surges created by motors
are the myth that Bud promotes
westom is prone to hallucinations. "Motors are not a particular surge
threat in a home."
Ask bud for the manufacturer spec that claims protection from
each type of surge. He works in this business.
The lie repeated - 2nd time.
UL is only about human safety. Says nothing about whether a
protector is effective.
Nonsense. As has been detailed previously, a UL listed suppressor has to
suppress a series of surges and remain functional.
He will not even admit he is paid to promote plug-
in protectors - ie that Tripplite.
The lie repeated - 3rd time.
What will that Tripplite do when its hundreds of joules somehow
absorbs surges that are hundreds of thousands of joules? Explode.
Vaporize. Create a human safety problem also seen in these other
scary pictures:
http://www.hanford.gov/rl/?page=556&parent=554
In addition to completely failing to understand how any suppressor
works, westom refuses to understand his own hanford link. It is about
"some older model" power strips and says overheating was fixed with a
revision to UL1449 that required thermal disconnects. That was 1998.
There is no reason to believe, from any of these links, that there is a
problem with suppressors produced under the UL standard that has been in
effect since 1998. None of these links even say a damaged suppressor had
a UL label.
But with no valid technical arguments all westom has is pathetic scare
tactics.
Bud's job is to keep you from learning these realities.
The lie repeated - 4th time.
Plug-in protectors (ie that Tripplite) require
protection that only earthing and the 'whole house' protector can
provide.
Funny - neither the IEEE or NIST surge guides mention that.
Another of westom's hallucinations
Yes, to do what bud is claiming,
you must buy at least 20 plug-in protectors for all over house.
Yet another hallucination.
Did bud forget to mention what his job is?
The lie repeated - 5th time. People with valid arguments don't have to lie.
Still missing - any source that agrees with westom that plug-in
suppressors are NOT effective.
Still missing - answers to simple questions:
- Why do the only 2 examples of protection in the IEEE guide use plug-in
suppressors?
- Why does the NIST guide says plug-in suppressors are "the easiest
solution"?
- Why does the NIST guide say "One effective solution is to have the
consumer install" a multiport plug-in suppressor?
- How would a service panel suppressor provide any protection in the
IEEE example, page 42?
- Why does the IEEE guide say for distant service points "the only
effective way of protecting the equipment is to use a multiport
[plug-in] protector"?
- Why did Martzloff say in his paper "One solution. illustrated in this
paper, is the insertion of a properly designed [multiport plug-in surge
suppressor]"?
- Why does Dr. Mansoor support multiport plug-in suppressors?
- Why does "responsible" manufacturer SquareD says "electronic
equipment may need additional protection by installing plug-in
[suppressors] at the point of use"?
For real science read the IEEE and NIST surge guides. Both say plug-in
suppressors are effective.