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Discussion in 'General Electronics' started by ronnen, Aug 12, 2004.

  1. ronnen

    ronnen Guest

    We see a lot of high voltage stun guns. Is it possible to produce a
    stun gun of 500KV or more? How do they calculate there voltage?
    Did anyone investigate the length and amplitude of pulses that a stun
    gun produces? I know a stun gun is lethal if the RMS current and the
    length of the pulse are higher of certain values? Does someone have
    the exact data?
     
  2. There isn't any meaningful data. Tolerance to electric shock varies
    enormously between individuals.
    What do you want half a million volts for, anyway? Do you keep rhinos?
     
  3. Sporkman

    Sporkman Guest

    He's thinking of stopping Palestinians.
     
  4. John Larkin

    John Larkin Guest

    Not unless the electrodes were a foot or more apart. I doubt that any
    handheld device could produce that much voltage without frying itself;
    there's just not enough room inside for a transformer or wiring with
    this kind of insulation.

    Sounds bogus.

    John
     
  5. Ken Taylor

    Ken Taylor Guest

    Good troll though.
     
  6. John Larkin

    John Larkin Guest

    Six posts so far. Not impressed.

    John
     
  7. Thomas Magma

    Thomas Magma Guest

    Might want to talk to some Nazis on this one (alt.net.nazis). I think Hitler
    collected some data on this topic back in the forties.

    :)
     
  8. budgie

    budgie Guest

    500kV will stop a lot of them - if only he can get them all to link up and hold
    hands ...
     
  9. PaPaPeng

    PaPaPeng Guest


    The American prison officials at Iraq's Abu Ghraib had already been
    there, done that. Wait for them to publish their findings.
     
  10. Now you'd better watch out for any suspicious looking terrorists
    turning up for the next 'Hands Across America" stunt. :)
     
  11. ronnen

    ronnen Guest

    Please be serious you all. I am talking about comercial products that
    advertise unreachable voltahe values (500KV, 650KV, 750KV). Why do
    they do it? I am not talking about one firm, try search google for
    stun guns and you will find many "high voltage" stun guns. Did anyone
    check the effective throughput of these? Can anyone supply more
    information about current, RMS current, internal resistent of the
    guns, frequency and structure of the pulse, etc. I am asking these
    questions to assist me handling a commercial project I am involved in.
     
  12. Dave VanHorn

    Dave VanHorn Guest

    Marketing..


    If you want to get to high voltages fairly easily, try a Marx Generator.
    Good designs achieve erection quickly and easily, and produce reliable
    output.

    http://www.kronjaeger.com/hv/hv/src/marx/index.html
     
  13. Maybe if you seek out the geniuses at Sears who have figured out how
    to run a 6HP motor from an ordinary 120VAC outlet you will find your
    answer grasshopper.

    Best regards,
    Spehro Pefhany
     
  14. Rich Grise

    Rich Grise Guest

    Dave VanHorn wrote:
    ....
    Does Christina Aguilera Nude have anything to do with this?
     
  15. But this technique is not the one employed in commercial production
    designs of stun guns, is it? What method do the commercial devices use
    to generate the 50KV or so that's the typical realistic output for
    these things?
     
  16. Dave VanHorn

    Dave VanHorn Guest

    Likely a series-resonant design, where you get voltage multiplication in
    excess of the transformer ratio. Still, way over-hyped.
     
  17. Charlie+

    Charlie+ Guest

    On 13 Aug 2004 22:30:01 -0700, (ronnen) wrote as
    underneath my scribble :

    I also have wondered casually on these things and the odd picture of
    stunbatons that you see on TV seem to have prods with a spacing of
    about 0.75 to 1 inch and a flash period of about 0.5 second, the
    flashover distance in free air gives you the voltage, The voltages you
    mention sound massively high to me , but you could be right!
    I imagine lethality depends on the capacitance behind the flash >0 pf
    = least likely death! I have absolutely no practical experience of
    these things so Im guessing. I would guess also that use has a
    fatality percentage rate on the recipiants no matter how carefully
    controlled the 'dose' voltage is, and what part of the body is
    stunned. If you have a legally right interest why not go to one of
    the fairs for police weaponry and ask questions.
    Didnt USA mil hush up the Japanese involvement with all these types
    of apalling fatal experiments (also including nerve agents) on
    thousands of Chinese captives - in exchange for secretly obtaining all
    the experimental data!! (W-War 2). What a world! Arnt' humans
    wunnerful!
    Charlie+
     
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