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  1. chopnhack

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    I wanted to buy some hookup wire for further experimentation and came across a review stating that it was not a good idea to use stranded wire for logic circuits.

    Is there any truth to this?

    I was thinking of buying some 22 ga. stranded wire as it would be more flexible than solid core. I have also used 24 ga solid core in the past and have been annoyed with how easily it breaks.

    Anybody use a particular wire that they like?
     
  2. shrtrnd

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    I've never heard that before. Like you, I use stranded 22ga specifically because it's more flexible.
    Were any specifics mentioned in the article? I don't know, like high frequency or some other variable?
     
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  3. Arouse1973

    Arouse1973 Adam

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    Hi chopnhack
    The only reason I can think of is the flexible nature of the wire could mean they all touch. This would create capacitance between the wires causing interference. I can't see of any other reason. The other guys might know more
    Just a thought.
     
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  4. davenn

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    I have never heard of that either

    for any circuit, I would use stranded wire from board to I/O connectors, switches, power etc
    for links on the board I would use single strand wire

    Dave
     
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  5. chopnhack

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    Thanks all, I didn't think it was founded, but never hurts to check. I saw it referenced on a review for hookup wire from radio shack.
     
  6. chopnhack

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    Dave, I understand the stranded for connections between items that may move, but why solid links on the board? Preference or other reasons?
    Thanks!
     
  7. KrisBlueNZ

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    Maybe with stranded wire, the electrons get confused and can't figure out which strand to go down. Maybe that's how fuzzy logic was discovered. Seriously, I don't know of any electrical reason not to use stranded wire with logic circuits either.

    Solid wire is used for links in prototyping systems because it's easier to work with. Stranded wire either needs to be tinned (in which case a weak point is formed at the end of the tinning if it is bent repeatedly) or the strands keep untwisting and can short onto things. Those are the reasons I know of.
     
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  8. Gryd3

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    I can't think of an electrical issue, but it could be mechanical.
    How many people do you figure lick their fingers, give the stranded wire a good twist, and jam it in the breadboard?
     
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  9. chopnhack

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    LOL, fuzzy indeed.

    Good point on the stranded solder joint, I hadn't thought of that.
     
  10. KJ6EAD

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    22 gauge solid is ideal for breadboard use so maybe the concern with stranded wire was in regard to it's inappropriateness for solderless breadboards. If the information came from a Radio Shack employee, it can be disregarded with prejudice.
     
  11. shrtrnd

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    Ahh Soo. Now we come to the root of the problem. I didn't think about the fact that this was a 'review' about a Radio Shack product.
    It was probably somebody's opinion, without real basis in recognized electronic theory.
    I do see the point of stress on stranded-wire leads making physical turns, like the actual connection to a speaker.
    Strands could easily break making sharp turns, leaving you with less than a quality electrical connection.
     
  12. Arouse1973

    Arouse1973 Adam

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    Another point if they are selling them for the use on Breadboards, and trying to poke stranded wire into the little holes. This could cause the small wires to fray out and possibly cause faults on the breadboard making it difficult to find this stray wire.
    Adam
     
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