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Rod Speed
- Jan 1, 1970
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Michael Black said:Mike Harding ([email protected]) writes
It's not just a matter of newsreaders.
Correct. There aint many used much that dont handle them gracefully
and the fools that are using ones that dont handle crossposting
gracefully dont get to stop on crossposting because their pathetic
excuse for a newsreader doesnt handle crossposting gracefully.
Cross-posting is usually the result of someone who can't
be bothered to figure out the most appropriate newsgroup,
Bullshit. Cross posting like was seen with the post being discussed
is done because there isnt a single appropriate newsgroup and it
makes a lot more sense to crosspost it to those that are appropriate
rather than posting to just one of them and see what replys turn up.
so they shotgun across a bunch of somewhat related ones:
alt.engineering.electrical,
aus.electronics,
sci.electronics.components,
sci.electronics.basics,
sci.electronics.design
Every single one is entirely appropriate to the question being asked.
I can say outright that if it's posted to basics,
it doesn't belong in design, or vice versa.
Mindless hair splitting. It is a pretty basic question, whether
a stepper motor is usable as a rotational position sensor.
And its appropriate in design too incase there are some
rather subtle factors involved, as there are in this case.
If you are a beginner, then you aren't ready for design,
Bullshit. And basics aint necessarily just beginners anyway.
Many get into engineering because they want to make
something that isnt readily buyable and they may well not
have enough of a theoretical background to allow them to
actually comprehend an answer from someone who replys
assuming that full design is being asked about rather than
just a bit of a rough and ready approach to a problem.
and if you can design, then you've gone past the basics.
Not necessarily.
And then, let's post to a two other hierarchies, just because they exist.
Or you do have a clue and have noticed that the alt heirarchy
exists separately to the more formal hierarchys which attempt
finer distinctions in the structures and that has its own real
downsides, like that question you just split hairs about.
While I can see someone post to the Australian newsgroup,
because they live there and are among familiar people, I don't
see the point if they are posting to some other newsgroup.
Your problem. Thats done because the geographic group may
well not have too many who have gotten involved in that subject.
And if the original poster is not in Australia, then the
only reason they've posted there is because they saw the
"electronic" in the newsgroup name and decided to post there.
Wrong again. You do see quite a few who have noticed that
a particular geographic group has managed to achieve some
regular posters who do make useful contributions and some
choose to post to them just because they have noticed that.
That happens a lot with cross-posting, people search
for pertinent newsgroups using a keyword, and then
don't bother checking the newsgroups before they post.
Or they have the sense to realise that if there is just one
geographical newsgroup that includes the keyword thats
appropriate, that that may be because for whatever
reason there happens to be collection of individuals
who are interest in that subject who do use usenet.
And while I have no idea what alt.engineering.electrical is supposed
to be for, electrical invokes an image of motors and light switches
and things that Tesla, Edison, and Westinghouse worked with.
Or it could just be a result of the fact that the alt groups arent
named by some committee of self important prats and that
you do get some real downsides like that with that approach.
A stepper is nominally an electrical rather than electronic item,
But they do mostly get discussed in the electronics groups.
but I'd unless someone is discussing making
stepper motors, I'd place them in the electronic
realm since they virtually all the time require
What matters is where they are discussed.
Another key point against cross-posting is that it can often
result in unrelated issues, such as this, because someone
has jumped into some existing groups at the same time.
Hardly the end of civilisation as we know it any time soon.
People who don't normally talk together are
suddenly interacting, but without the interaction
of other things to temper the discussion.
Again, hardly the end of civilisation as we know it any time soon.
So if a discussion is kept to one newsgroup, if someone says
something that I'd consider outrageous, I might think twice
about saying something because I know some common points
that I have with that poster, and maybe even I realize that
I'll have to live with that person in the newsgroup in the future.
You're always welcome to do that sort of thing if you like.
No one is ever welcome to attempt to ram their views on
how things must be done down others throats like Mike did.
That's not the case when suddenly "people from other newsgroups"
are in the familiar newsgroup. This guy is an idiot for cross-posting.
You are an idiot for not understanding how effective cross posting can be.
The only real thing I know about him is that he's cross-posted;
Thats the nature of usenet, stupid.
I don't even know which, if any, of the newsgroups
he posted to is the one he regularly hangs out in.
Its completely trivial for anyone with a clue to check that.
You cant manage it ? Your problem.