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Grumps

Jan 1, 1970
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Sony KVX2142, ae-1c chassis. Picture is severely squashed vertically, with
bright band in the centre. Preliminary investigation suggests that the HT is
ok (I get a picture), and the horizontal drive is also ok. The 27V for the
vertical deflection circuitry sits as 12V; there must be some path from the
12V to the 27V.
According to the circuits, the FBT generates the 27V supply via a resistor
(0R47), diode, and a elec cap. There would appear to be no volts either end
of the res. This would seem to indicate the FBT is kapput, but only the
secondary that is used for the 27V bit. Is this possible/likely?
Before I splash out £50+ for a replacement, I'm wondering if I could make a
separate 27V supply.
Comments? Ta
 
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James Sweet

Jan 1, 1970
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Grumps said:
Sony KVX2142, ae-1c chassis. Picture is severely squashed vertically, with
bright band in the centre. Preliminary investigation suggests that the HT is
ok (I get a picture), and the horizontal drive is also ok. The 27V for the
vertical deflection circuitry sits as 12V; there must be some path from the
12V to the 27V.
According to the circuits, the FBT generates the 27V supply via a resistor
(0R47), diode, and a elec cap. There would appear to be no volts either end
of the res. This would seem to indicate the FBT is kapput, but only the
secondary that is used for the 27V bit. Is this possible/likely?
Before I splash out £50+ for a replacement, I'm wondering if I could make a
separate 27V supply.
Comments? Ta


Very unlikely to be a bad flyback, sounds like something is shorted in
the vertical deflection circuit and pulling the supply down.
 
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Grumps

Jan 1, 1970
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James said:
Very unlikely to be a bad flyback, sounds like something is shorted in
the vertical deflection circuit and pulling the supply down.

Thanks.
I thought that too. But why can I see 12V on the 27V supply, but nothing on
the anode side of the diode from the FBT? But then, I can't find the path
(from the circuits) from 12V to 27V either!
The power supply circuit for this 27V seems quite simple; winding on FBT,
0R47 resistor, diode, and 680u cap. I can't see anything (Tek scope, not
multimeter) on the winding, res, or diode anode. Only see 12V when you get
to the other side of the diode.
 
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Grumps

Jan 1, 1970
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James said:
Very unlikely to be a bad flyback, sounds like something is shorted in
the vertical deflection circuit and pulling the supply down.

My mistake. I had not looked under the circuit board, so just assumed which
was the FBT feed to the resistor. I got the wrong end! The 0R47 is open. Q
is, why did it blow?!
 
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Grumps

Jan 1, 1970
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James said:
Very unlikely to be a bad flyback, sounds like something is shorted in
the vertical deflection circuit and pulling the supply down.

Replaced 0R47 res after I decided to measure the voltage on the res
properly, doh!
TV now works :)
I wonder why it broke. Could it be linked to our new policy of switching off
at the mains and not leaving it in standby?
 
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Leonard Caillouet

Jan 1, 1970
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Replaced 0R47 res after I decided to measure the voltage on the res
properly, doh!
TV now works :)
I wonder why it broke. Could it be linked to our new policy of switching
off at the mains and not leaving it in standby?

I see Sony sets with only a resistor in the supply from the FBT secondary
open often enough with no other issues to not worry about it any more. I
think the resistor is just sized conservatively. I doubt that it has
anything to do with your power configuration. We do see a lot of bad solder
joints on the vertical outputs and that could play a role. Like the HDT, we
always resolder the vertical output when we service a Sony.

Leonard
 
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Grumps

Jan 1, 1970
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Leonard said:
I see Sony sets with only a resistor in the supply from the FBT
secondary open often enough with no other issues to not worry about
it any more. I think the resistor is just sized conservatively. I
doubt that it has anything to do with your power configuration. We
do see a lot of bad solder joints on the vertical outputs and that
could play a role. Like the HDT, we always resolder the vertical
output when we service a Sony.

Thanks. I'll rest assured.
 
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