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  1. Guest

    The motor number is: RF-320CH-12400
    RN 44 9Z 18
    D/V 13
    Matt and some others have some motor listings but not this one. I
    actually took the motor apart as I have had some luck in resurfacing
    the commutators on some of these but this one has a broken brush. Can't
    really figure out a way to replace it. Fulton will not sell just the
    motor. They want 71.30 for the "optical assy". What a friggin ripoff!
    Does anyone have either a way to repair these motors or a REASONABLE
    replacement source? Thanks, Lenny Stein, Barlen Electronics.
     
  2. Guest

    Good luck, been looking for one year, same motor, Sony DVD players.
    DVD player new, $90. Optical assy lowest price $71.30.

    I have 9 similar Sony DVD players all with bad spindle motors sitting,
    not being repaired as they all failed just outside of warranty.

    Also need the RF-300F-12350 spindle motor for the DVP-NS425 series.

    David
     
  3. Jerry G.

    Jerry G. Guest

    The only way you will find this motor cheap is to find a scrapper machine
    with a good one. Considering that most of these consumer DVD players are at
    below $150 for a good one, or below $90 for a cheap one, paying out $80 just
    for parts is not worth it. A new player will come with a full 1 year
    warranty.

    I was a Wallmarts and was seeing some players at below $60. The pictures on
    them were very impressive. At the rear, they had all the necessary component
    outputs. The only thing I did not like was that there is no status display
    on the front panel.

    I remember about 7 years ago when DVD players first came out, the cheapest
    ones were up at about $650.00 US !!! The good ones were up at about $1500.00
    and plus! You can now get a better specification one for under $200 than
    the top models of that time.

    --

    Jerry G.
    =====

    The motor number is: RF-320CH-12400
    RN 44 9Z 18
    D/V 13
    Matt and some others have some motor listings but not this one. I
    actually took the motor apart as I have had some luck in resurfacing
    the commutators on some of these but this one has a broken brush. Can't
    really figure out a way to replace it. Fulton will not sell just the
    motor. They want 71.30 for the "optical assy". What a friggin ripoff!
    Does anyone have either a way to repair these motors or a REASONABLE
    replacement source? Thanks, Lenny Stein, Barlen Electronics.
     
  4. The only replacement source for motors, at least for me, was for donated
    players.

    I've got two parts DVP-S360 players that both had faulty pickups due to the DSP
    servo firmware bug, IMO.

    The motors are still good. - Reinhart
     
  5. Guest

    Yes you can buy new machines cheap now. "Cheap" of course being the
    operative word here unfortunately. From a consumer point of view
    though, (actually I'm not one, as most of my "newer" stuff came from
    customers who didn't want to spend the money to repair it).
    I would be really pissed to only get short service out of new
    equipment purchases. I have a 22 year old Goldstar microwave oven that
    we got for looking at a Time share property years ago. All of my
    televisions are pre Columbus including the 1966 21 inch round Zenith.
    My appliances too. They all work just fine. I would not even THINK
    about buying new.
    But as long as the world sactions the sad fact that Chinese prisoners
    and underpaid others from third world countries are making these
    products which we so crave in factories often in conditions so
    deplorable that they would be unimaginable to the civilized world, with
    their only compensation perhaps being allowed to remain alive this
    bullshit will continue.
    Meanwhile greedy manufacturers like Sony who speced out this piece of
    crap motor won't sell replacement parts. Why can't the FTC or some
    other useless Gov't entity which our wasted taxes support do something
    about this? Lenny Stein, Barlen Electronics
     
  6. Considering that most of these consumer DVD players are at
    And that you have greater functionality and, in the case of something like the
    Sony DVP-NS575, better reliability.
    Any DVD player will look good upon first evaluation. If you take the time to
    compare and evaluate critically and even take measurements, differences can be
    found.

    Generally, players that sell for less than $60 under brands like Symphonic,
    Norcent, Apex, Mintek, and the like have a picture quality that is technically
    inferior. They usually exhibit extreme roll-off in the video signal's upper
    frequencies, which manifests itself as a softer picture. This is usually due
    to the fact that the analogue stages that passes the video output from the MPEG
    decoder to the video outputs (component, s-video, composite) are usually
    designed cheaply and built with cheap parts. Other problems could include
    macroblocking artifacts with some cheap players. Quite a few use cheap MPEG
    decoders which do not perform up to snuff, although some do use decent
    decoders, but the cheaply designed analogue stage counteracts that particular
    performance advantage if it's present.

    Almost all cheap players have horrible progressive scan performance with bad
    3:2 reverse pulldown if at all so film-based titles may not deinterlace
    properly, and no cadence detection so it's dependent on detecting flags to know
    how to deinterlace the video while a lot of DVDs aren't flagged correctly.

    Plus, a lot of cheap players use cheap parts throughout. It's also not unusual
    to have cheap players that have worn optical pickups within months to 2 years
    of use. Although there are people that have had good luck with these things,
    most usually have to replace them sooner than they expected.

    My recommendations: Sony, Pioneer, or JVC.
    I remember that, too.

    Although, there is one 1st gen player that still stands out as a reference by
    which many others are measured in overall video performance (sans progressive
    scan): Sony DVP-S7000.

    The best overall player as far as I know:
    Denon DVD-5900 (also very expensive at over $5000 MSRP, unfortunately.) -
    Reinhart
     
  7. NSM

    NSM Guest

    ....
    | >I was a Wallmarts and was seeing some players at below $60. The pictures
    on
    | >them were very impressive.
    |
    | Any DVD player will look good upon first evaluation. If you take the time
    to
    | compare and evaluate critically and even take measurements, differences
    can be
    | found.

    Local Best Buy has one model for $32.

    ....

    N
     
  8. Stephen Sank

    Stephen Sank Guest

    I concur on the Sony DVP-S7000. I own three of them. Not only great performance, but it has
    the only DVD laser pickup I have yet seen to prove itself long term reliable. Plus, it has a 2
    channel audio DAC board that is really easy to remove & do upgrades upon. After upgrading, it
    sounds absolutely terrific for cd playback.
    Back on the subject of the DVP-S530D, I could swear that one of the dvd mechs/lasers just
    listed in the Sony section of the newest MCM catalog is the right one for the 530, and was
    something like $35, laser & motors included.

    --
    Stephen Sank, Owner & Ribbon Mic Restorer
    Talking Dog Transducer Company
    http://stephensank.com
    5517 Carmelita Drive N.E.
    Albuquerque, New Mexico [87111]
    505-332-0336
    Auth. Nakamichi & McIntosh servicer
    Payments preferred through Paypal.com
     
  9. I concur on the Sony DVP-S7000. I own three of them. Not only great
    My biggest gripe about the S7000 is that there is no DTS output. Other than
    that, though.

    I also like the DVP-S7700, but wished it didn't have the chroma upsampling
    problem which the S7000 does not exhibit.
    I wouldn't doubt that those parts can go on sale or what not. For instance,
    some places list the Sony KSS-210 CD pickup at around $40. I got my
    replacement KSS-210 for my Marantz CD-3577 for about $20 from Suburban
    Electronics. - Reinhart
     
  10. I need to check these out. Tired of repairs getting declined.
    I own a DVP-S530D but have removed it from my system because it won't do
    CD-R, which the majority of my cd's are anymore. I know there are "silver"
    cdr's but it's to late to re-do the collection.

    Any offers? On the 530D that is :)

    Mark Z.
     
  11. heywire

    heywire Guest


    I have to make a comment here, from the view of a 23 year old male.
    While you prefer to have your TV and Microwave last 20+ years, I prefe
    to have a "nice, new" one every 5. I find myself replacing my cellphon
    yearly, dvd player about every 2, tv every 3-5, microwave every 3-5..
    not because they go bad, but because I like to have the latest an
    greatest. It's not about having too much money money, as I make
    measly 40k a year... but now days you don't spend as much on a
    appliance as you used to. I think of them more as a lease... I'
    rather spend $1000 over 10 years on 2-3 tv's then $1000 for one
     
  12. I checked MCM on-line and the mech for the 530D was 98.00 and change. Only
    the one listing for this part. This info could be obsolete though.

    Mark Z.
     
  13. JOHN E. CARR

    JOHN E. CARR Guest

    I have one, that you can have for 50.00 includes shipping.
    JOHNC
     
  14. Stephen Sank

    Stephen Sank Guest

    Do you mean you have a DVP-S7000 for fifty bucks(to which I'd say "I'll take it") or were you
    referring to parts for the S530D or something else? It's not clear from you message.

    --
    Stephen Sank, Owner & Ribbon Mic Restorer
    Talking Dog Transducer Company
    http://stephensank.com
    5517 Carmelita Drive N.E.
    Albuquerque, New Mexico [87111]
    505-332-0336
    Auth. Nakamichi & McIntosh servicer
    Payments preferred through Paypal.com
     
  15. I have to make a comment here, from the view of a 23 year old male.
    And here's a response from another 23 year old male.

    I have a Panasonic microwave that still works after 22 years. Did have to
    replace the internal interlock switches, but that's just $2 worth of parts and
    my own labor versus spending $50 or so on an oven that isn't as powerful and
    isn't built nearly as well. Why replace it with something that's less when all
    it needed was simple service to fix it?

    I have a Sony Trinitron TV I built from two defective units of the same model.
    It's been calibrated, so it beats the crap out of almost any other NTSC
    television, new and used. It also has a hidden 16x9 mode so I can enjoy DVDs
    with anamorphic enhancement. Why replace it when it works better than just
    about any other TV I've seen in a lot of areas? I'd go HDTV when it becomes
    far more widespread and when NTSC broadcasts are halted. But until then...

    My cellphone is an old Motorola StarTAC. It's a tri-mode so it still works
    with the Verizon system fully. AND, it also transceives at the full legal
    limit so it can take and make calls in places where my sister's Verizon LG
    camera phone can't. Why replace it when I don't really need the niceties of
    games, customizable ringtones, color screens, and a camera? Why does a phone
    need these things, for crying out loud! The basic function of a phone is to
    make and receive calls, and if a phone can't do that as reliably as my StarTAC
    (mainly because newer phones have to divide the battery power to operate the
    non-essentials in addition to the transceiver as well as to address potential
    legal trouble from the idiots who think that using cell phones will give you
    tumors), I won't bother with it.

    My Sony DVP-S360 DVD player. Five years old and it still works and delivers a
    picture that is not crippled by a lousy analogue stage like those found in
    cheap Apex players, so what's the point in replacing it? When it croaks, I'll
    go out and buy another Sony, particularly the models that use the
    PrecisionDrive 3 system as they do not have layer change pauses unlike a lot of
    the cheapie DVD players sold today. I don't need a player that can read CD-R
    discs or MP3 support. I just want a DVD player that can play DVDs decently.

    As for my audio system? Heh, hardly anything short of full blown exotic setup
    really beats an almost full-fledged Sony ES system with a class A amp. And, it
    does support the latest including Dolby Digital EX, ProLogic IIx and DTS ES.
    It will blow those lowly HTiB systems, computer 5.1 setups, and Bose
    shelf-systems out of the water and into the stratoshpere. And, it sounds great
    with CDs, cassettes, and LPs in addition to digital surround sound. The
    receiver, the STR-DA4ES, is about three years old. My tape deck, a TC-K707ES,
    has three heads with a closed loop capstan and supports Dolby S and is about 11
    years old and sounds great. My CD player, a CDP-X229ES, is about 12 years old
    and works marvelously. Note that I said Sony ES. ES is the Elevated Standard
    series, which is heads and tails superior to the regular Sony line of products
    and are sold only at authorized hi-fi dealers.

    And I'm just some college student who seems to have a particular knack at
    obtaining quite a few good things at great deals or getting something broken
    and fixing it back into somehing that's great.

    Seeing and knowing what goes inside of something like, say, a lot of TVs from
    the decent brands versus the cheapies, I'd rahter spend the extra bucks to get
    a Sony over an Apex.

    Buying crap like Apex and the like is not buying the latest and greatest. It's
    throwing money away on substandard junk. I see these things get dropped off on
    the repair bench fairly frequently, quite a few only several months old. They
    fail because they just quit working. Cheap parts and cheap design are the
    culprits, yet we have a public that are not convinced and continue to burn cash
    on garbage that will require replacement within two years instead of lasting up
    to 10 years or so which is typically the case with good brands like Sony and
    Hitachi.

    Buy something decent and it won't come to this! - Reinhart
     
  16. FoulDragon

    FoulDragon Guest

    A third view

    Planned obsolescense makes great sense when tied with inherent obsolescence.
    In five years, you'll get a much better one, so what difference if it only
    lasts six?

    Sadly, we see it in very developed technologies. Any VCR on the market won't
    be way better than one from five years ago. (in fact, the 'Sylvania' Funai
    which replaced our eight-year-old Magnavox has a less workable control system
    and seems to wear tapes very fast)
     
  17. Guest

    I am 27 years of age, so must be an old fart then :p While I have the
    latest and greatest cellphone, it was not cheap and I expect it to last
    5 years or more. I tend to hang onto older stuff of the top class, I can
    make repairs myself and I can pick really great stuff. No need to settle
    for a 250 euro crappy TV set when I can watch a 15 year old set with
    much better picture that was in the 1500 euro price-range back then.

    Apart from that, there is such thing as the environment. Everything
    that's thrown away prematurely is a waist of energy and a possible
    source of pollution.
     
  18. TechMaster

    TechMaster Guest

    On 30 Dec 2004 05:56:36 -0800, wrote:

    what is the Laser type?
    KHS-XXXaaa tell me what you have and i probably willl have a mechs
    with working motors but bad laser. Lasers can be swapped out in these
    mecs so all will be right with the world.
     
  19. Guest

    I have two Sony DVD players with the same problem, with the same bad
    part.

    Check out this page, which lists some data about this part (or rather,
    a replacement for it) and some similar parts:

    http://www.fafa-motor.com/doce/cp.htm

    If you look at that page, it looks like the RF-310TA-11400 is very
    similar, but with a different shaft length (0.62" vs 0.37").

    I found that motor for sale here:
    http://www.electronix.com/catalog/default.php/cPath/1_23

    The part on the fafa-motor site corresponds to Electronix's 26-110.
    Now, the 26-140 seems to be the same thing as the 26-110, but with a
    shaft length of 0.42". And the 26-160 weighs in at 0.35". And they're
    only $5.99 each!

    Can anyone think of a reason one of these wouldn't work as a
    substitute, before I go out and buy a couple?

    Ben
     
  20. Ben Byer

    Ben Byer Guest

    Success!

    I bought two of the spindle motor below, the 26-140. I replaced the
    RF-320CH-12400 in my DVP-S330 and my DVP-NS715P with the 26-140 motor
    below. The only problem was that the spindle length was a bit too long
    -- I think that the 26-160 would have worked perfectly without
    modification. I now have two working DVD players, with a cost of $17
    including shipping.

    I also took some pictures of the process -- email if interested.

    Ben
     
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