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Mark Harriss
- Jan 1, 1970
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Damien said:Take a look at the OP, it's clearly about a timber laptop case
Yes... but, this is all in reply to the real andy's assertion that
any type of dry wood will not conduct lightning.
Damien said:Take a look at the OP, it's clearly about a timber laptop case
Damien McBain said:Rod Speed wrote
Take a look at the OP, it's clearly about a timber laptop case
Damien McBain said:Mark Harriss wrote
Maybe the wires got hot and burnt the rubber?
Rod said:Unlikely with that sort of voltage on them.
The best insulation for that sort of voltage
is one of the thicker coaxs like RG8
Rod Speed said:AFTER the thread had clearly diverted to the more general
question of whether lightning can indeed be conducted by dry wood.
Its obvious from the quoting that you keep flagrantly
dishonestly deleting where that came from.
Lying, again.
Wrong, as always. It has everything to do
with the claims made at the top of the quoting.
Originally is completely irrelevant. I chose to comment on
your stupid pig ignorant claims about wood and lightning.
Its clear that lightning was being discussed in the
quoting you keep flagrantly dishonestly deleting.
And that is just plain wrong with dry wood and lightning.
Plucked it from your arse basically.
What you replied to was the general statement, stupid.
No need.
I wasnt the first one to say, that, MC was.
Wrong, as always. Hariss made that general
claim which is clearly just plain wrong.
No I didnt. You cant quote the post where I said that, because I didnt.
No I didnt, I never ever mentioned Geelong at all.
No need, someone else said both of those.
Nope, just plain wrong when stated as baldly as that.
Pity the thread had diverged to a more
general claim about wood and lightning
You get to like that or lump it.
Pity it can be with lightning.
Mark Harriss said:The wires were attached to the ends of the 60cm length of rubber tube
which was used to space the wires out as they were not rated for HV.
The voltage was able to breakdown the 1000V rated insulation and cause
enough flow across the rubber to make it start crackling and popping
with lots of smoke.
Colin ® said:Someone posted ----
Those figures show that wood exposed to 80% humidity at 22C for a period
of 72 hours is more conductive than the same wood after only 24 hours.
The wood is absorbing moisture so it conducts better - the fibreglass does
also but not to the same extent.
The conclusion is that the water in the wood is doing the conducting.
Now, whose argument does that support, if anyones ?
Dry wood was only part of the tread in relation to a laptop case
- in which case the wood is not a good conductor.
The thread diverged to the Geelong incident,
where the wood was wet
and water was the main conductor
- again not the wood conducting.
There was never mention of dry wood.
Or maybe the 'flagrantly dishonest' poster is indeed yourself
No lies, just the truth
- hence why I've cut the thread again.
Again, dry wood as a conductor was only
part of the thread in relation to laptop cases
- where it's use as a conductor is non existant.
Please do try and keep up.
But wood in this discussion was wet - not dry.
There was never any mention of dry wood.
Yep, lightning in relation to *wet* wood
- as was the case in the Geelong incident.
Again there was no mention of dry wood
- except for use in the laptop case.
Which is irrelevent to every part of this
thread as the wood was *wet* - not dry.
Or, as the case indeed it, from the thread.
But there was no general statement.
It's simple really - laptop case: dry wood, not a good conductor.
Geelong: wet wood, water was the conductor.
So where does dry wood and lightning come into this?
If there was no need I wouldn't be posting again on this topic.
But you *continue* to say that
- which is what I said and which is irrelevant to this thread.
As you posted that wood is doing the conducting. It's not - the water is.
Try here:
"> Its not the wood thats doing the conducting.
Yes it is."
I think that is fairly clear.
You agreed with the statement.
Both of which you agreed with.
It can't be wrong if it's a direct quote from this thread.
I don't wish to sound arrogant,
but maybe you should take your own advice.
Pity in this thread the wood that was struck by lightning was wet.
Mark Harriss said:I'm on the lookout for x-ray cable if anyone has some
lying around the place.
Rod said:RG8 is fine, I ran quite a bit more than 50KV thru that fine.
Mark said:From what I can see Rod, these clowns have the same grip on
reality as a UN weapons inspector, you can post data showing
dry wood current flow figures and still they want to argue
their way out.
Insulation is relative, which was the point I made, but they
still want to argue about voltage levels, moisture contents
and change the rules or shift the goalpost.
DRY, WET OR DIPPED IN SOY SAUCE, WOOD IS A CONDUCTOR TO
LIGHTNING LEVEL VOLTAGES....GET OVER IT YOU STUPID FLAT EARTH
PIG IGNORANT FUCKS.
Mark Harriss said:From what I can see Rod, these clowns have the same grip on
reality as a UN weapons inspector, you can post data showing
dry wood current flow figures and still they want to argue
their way out.
Insulation is relative, which was the point I made, but they
still want to argue about voltage levels, moisture contents
and change the rules or shift the goalpost.
DRY, WET OR DIPPED IN SOY SAUCE, WOOD IS A CONDUCTOR TO
LIGHTNING LEVEL VOLTAGES....GET OVER IT YOU STUPID FLAT EARTH
PIG IGNORANT FUCKS.
The laptop case was completely irrelevant once the
thread had diverged to discuss lightning and wood.
The laptop case was completely irrelevant once the
thread had diverged to discuss lightning and wood.
Wrong again, that came later than what is quoted above.
Wrong again, it wasnt wet.
Wrong again, there was no water.
Wrong, as always.
Lying, again. Read the quoting you keep flagrantly
dishonestly deleting and I keep restoring.
Lying, again. Read the quoting you keep flagrantly
dishonestly deleting and I keep restoring.
Lying, again.
You flagrant dishonesty fools absolutely no one at all.
Again, the laptop case was completely irrelevant once
the thread had diverged to discuss lightning and wood.
Again, the laptop case was completely irrelevant once
the thread had diverged to discuss lightning and wood.
Couldnt bullshit and lie its way out of a wet paper bag...
Lying, again.
Lying, again. There clearly is in the quoting you keep flagrantly
dishonestly deleting from the quoting and I keep restoring.
Lying, again.
Lying, again. And that was a separate sub thread anyway.
Lying, again. There clearly is in the quoting you keep flagrantly
dishonestly deleting from the quoting and I keep restoring.
Lying, again. There clearly is in the quoting you keep flagrantly
dishonestly deleting from the quoting and I keep restoring.
Nothing to do with any laptop, everything to do with lightning.
Lying, as always. YOU made the stupid pig ignorant claim
that dry wood is always an insulator, never a conductor.
Lying, as always. YOU made the stupid pig ignorant claim
that dry wood is always an insulator, never a conductor.
Lying, as always.
Again, the laptop case was completely irrelevant once
the thread had diverged to discuss lightning and wood.
Wrong, as always. And that was a separate sub thread anyway.
Reread the quoting that you keep flagrantly
dishonestly deleting and I keep reposting.
Lying, as always.
Because you keep denying it, cretin.
And you clearly lied, as proven by the quoting that you
keep flagrantly dishonestly deleting and I keep restoring.
Wrong as always. Wood still conducts when there is no water, fuckwit.
Just like any insulator does when the voltage is high enough.
Nothing to do with any laptop or any grounding.
As should be obvious to even someone as stupid as you by the quoting
that you keep flagrantly dishonestly deleting and I keep restoring.
Not a shred of evidence that you are actually capable of thought.
Or even being able to bullshit or lie your way out of a wet paper bag either.
Wrong again, I didnt even commment Geelong at all.
Lying, again. I didnt even comment on either statement.
THE STATEMENT is wrong, fuckwit.
You just sound like a fool.
No need, you have always been just plain
wrong and a pathological liar to boot.
Lying, as always.
Mark Harriss said:From what I can see Rod, these clowns have the same grip on reality as a UN
weapons inspector, you can post data showing dry wood current flow figures and
still they want to argue their way out.
Insulation is relative, which was the point I made, but they still want to
argue about voltage levels, moisture contents and change the rules or shift
the goalpost.
Patrick Turner said:OK mark, no need to shout, they wood get the message if they wood read
ordinary lower case typing woodent they surely now?
In a tubed preamp I have used wooden terminal strips made of dry
jarrah, and when prodding between
metal screws in the wood only 10mm apart the resistance was well over
what my DVM could read.
But if the wood ever cop a soaking from being flooded in a
Katrina event, then the amp wood need drying out well before use
although the
polyurethane coating I have painted on wood keep the problems to a
minimum.
Lightning strikes might affect the item slightly; and perhaps zap the
fragile
input fet but only tickle the tubes unless the lightning strike was
directly
to the input terminal, which is unlikely.
Wooden boards for radios were used in the 1920s, and what fine rugged
radios those old bangers were,
since many are still being used in the outback of Oz.
Mark Harriss said:I bought about 20 metres of RG8 on a cable drum from the
recycle shop for $5....then gave it to a mate for free,
it amazing what eventually would come in handy.
Was the braid earthed at that voltage?
Patrick Turner said:Wooden boards for radios were used in the 1920s, and what fine rugged
radios those old bangers were,
since many are still being used in the outback of Oz.
Patrick said:OK mark, no need to shout, they wood get the message if they wood read
ordinary lower case typing woodent they surely now?
In a tubed preamp I have used wooden terminal strips made of dry
jarrah, and when prodding between
metal screws in the wood only 10mm apart the resistance was well over
what my DVM could read.
But if the wood ever cop a soaking from being flooded in a
Katrina event, then the amp wood need drying out well before use
although the
polyurethane coating I have painted on wood keep the problems to a
minimum.