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So what's the truth about lead-free solder ?

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David Harmon

Jan 1, 1970
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On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 18:14:20 -0400 in sci.electronics.design, "Leonard
Caillouet said:
The reason that one might speculate this is that PbF solder has a higher
melting point and is harder, thus perhaps less prone to thermal damaged due

Lead Fluoride???
 
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Chris Jones

Jan 1, 1970
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Arfa said:
All that you say is of course true. However, even Hollywood would have to
seek to prosecute in the country that the person who they feel is guilty
of the misdemeanor, resides, I think, unless the 'offence' was actually
committed on U.S. soil. Given that, I can't see any judge in this country
at least, allowing such a silly contention

As I understand it, you can be extradited from the UK to the US *without*
anything being proven in a UK court first. For some reason, the US has
forgotten to sign their half of the "reciprocal" agreement, so it only
works one way.
http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/paperchase/2006/07/uk-mps-protest-lopsided-extradition.php

Chris
 
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clifto

Jan 1, 1970
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David said:
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 18:14:20 -0400 in sci.electronics.design, "Leonard


Lead Fluoride???

It's for brushing your mercury fillings.
 
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Arfa Daily

Jan 1, 1970
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Eeyore said:
Universal were entirely within their rights to ask for the apparently
copyright infriging
material to be removed from YouTube. Were they over-reacting - certainly
IMHO in this case
but they weren't suing the mother involved as Jan alleged.

And.... the mother is certainly entitled to sue Universal under 'fair use'
provisions of
the law.

This case may actually serve a good purpose by making it clearer what
should and shouldn't
be acceptable use. From what I heard, the music was 'in the background'.
I'd have said
Universal must be utterly crazy to insist on its removal if that's true.

Graham
Yes, that's my thought too. Now Universal might be a big organisation, but
they are not stupid. Nor, I'm sure, are their corporate law department, and
any externally retained law experts. Which then begs the question of why
they would pursue this with such apparent vigour, given the negative
publicity which it would - and seemingly *is* - bringing down on their
heads. Which brings us back round to the question of is there more to this
than we are being told.

All of which is a very long way from bad joints on lead-free joints ...

Arfa
 
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Arfa Daily

Jan 1, 1970
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Eeyore said:
Jan's got the story back to front. He seems to get everything back to
front in
fact.


Youtube video:Mother to Sue

A mother is suing Universal Music Publishing Group for insisting a video
of her
toddler dancing to music by pop star Prince be yanked from YouTube on
copyright
violation grounds.

Electronic Frontier Foundation lawyers said they filed a lawsuit yesterday
asking a San Francisco federal court to protect the woman's fair use and
free
speech rights.
http://prince.org/msg/7/236123?jump=9&pg=1

Graham
Yep, sounds like a lawyer-driven test case to me. As soon as I see the words
"fair", "free" and "speech", and "rights" in a sentence that also contains
the word "lawyer", I'm immediately thinking that way ...

Arfa
 
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Liggett

Jan 1, 1970
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I DID check the thread, you stupid ****. YOU AUTHORED IT, and the first
post in it was yours, and THAT is the post I quoted to prove it, and that
is the post I was referring to as being one YOU posted.

So NO, I did NOT respond to myself, you stupid fucktard.


Shut up you lying fucktard.
 
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Spurious Response

Jan 1, 1970
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He is probably referring to his pathetic sexual performance with the
few whores who do not wisely reject him.


More proof of your 100% juvenile mental maturity.
 
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Spurious Response

Jan 1, 1970
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They are suing somebody for a youtube (or the like) clip, person had thier
toddler dancing to music from Prince playing on a TV in the background.

Hollywood has gone nuts, probably full of rabits too.


The suit will fail miserably on the very point I made.
 
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Spurious Response

Jan 1, 1970
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Universal were entirely within their rights to ask for the apparently copyright infriging
material to be removed from YouTube.


Wrong. Single frames of video, as well as short clips are 100%
allowable.

You are an apparently assuming nitwit.

You infringe on those of us that are intelligent.
 
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Brandon D Cartwright

Jan 1, 1970
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More proof of your 100% juvenile mental maturity.

"cram it in and go" gives real insight into your failed personality.

All your posts are kind of "cram it(abuse) in and go"

The trouble for the electronic groups is you invariably come back
like a bad smell.

All that can be hoped for is the brief respite your drinking bouts
provide.
 
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Spurious Response

Jan 1, 1970
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"cram it in and go" gives real insight into your failed personality.

All your posts are kind of "cram it(abuse) in and go"

The trouble for the electronic groups is you invariably come back
like a bad smell.

All that can be hoped for is the brief respite your drinking bouts
provide.

Is there ANYTHING that you don't make up as you go along, you total
fucking retard?
 
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Lamey

Jan 1, 1970
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Wrong. Single frames of video, as well as short clips are 100%
allowable.

You are an apparently assuming nitwit.

You infringe on those of us that are intelligent.
More abuse from the drunken prongboi.

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Spurious Response

Jan 1, 1970
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Got to agree. My view is it was pushed for a political agenda rather
than a scientific one (duh) and a reduction in hazardous substances has
not and will not be achieved from the directive. There are more
hazardous chemicals used (by volume) for the replacement processes than
is removed by the RoHS directive, amusingly. Another issue is because of
the suspect reliability of equipment (there definitely seems to be more
failures in RoHS compliant products), more equipment is actually made.
With the WEEE directive it simply means that more parts are used, and
the costs go up due to the cost of dealing with / recycling defective
equipment. Doesn't make much sense, really.

On the refinishing front, if we could buy SnPb finished parts, we would.
These are still available directly from manufacturers of some parts for
the aerospace industry, but not from others. Having two processes drives
up their costs, so we either pay the manufacturer for it or pay our own
facilities for it. Either way, the end product cost increases.

If the object of the exercise was to reduce hazardous substances, it has
failed spectacularly.

I do not know if the term "amusingly" is appropriate.

I don't know if I would ever describe a failure of any kind as being
"spectacular" either.

The term miserably comes to mind in both instances, as that is exactly
what it has caused nearly all involved.

Hopefully, said misery will come full circle, and bite the politicians
that started this CRAP right in the ass. It will certainly have an
economic impact, and they will likely find some way to squirm clear of
any blame, but the fact remains, that there was no science involved, and
that technically we already knew about this decades ago when our REAL
scientists formulated the solders we now know for a fact to be superior
in all respects.
 
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PeteS

Jan 1, 1970
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Eeyore said:
The effort invoved in puting lead back on components always strikes me as one of
the more bizarre aspects of RoHS. Talk about proof the idea was fundamentally
wrong in the first place !

Graham

Got to agree. My view is it was pushed for a political agenda rather
than a scientific one (duh) and a reduction in hazardous substances has
not and will not be achieved from the directive. There are more
hazardous chemicals used (by volume) for the replacement processes than
is removed by the RoHS directive, amusingly. Another issue is because of
the suspect reliability of equipment (there definitely seems to be more
failures in RoHS compliant products), more equipment is actually made.
With the WEEE directive it simply means that more parts are used, and
the costs go up due to the cost of dealing with / recycling defective
equipment. Doesn't make much sense, really.

On the refinishing front, if we could buy SnPb finished parts, we would.
These are still available directly from manufacturers of some parts for
the aerospace industry, but not from others. Having two processes drives
up their costs, so we either pay the manufacturer for it or pay our own
facilities for it. Either way, the end product cost increases.

If the object of the exercise was to reduce hazardous substances, it has
failed spectacularly.

Cheers

PeteS
 
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Brandon D Cartwright

Jan 1, 1970
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Is there ANYTHING that you don't make up as you go along, you total
fucking retard?

Thank you for proving another text book example of "cram it in and
go"!
 
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Eeyore

Jan 1, 1970
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Spurious said:
Wrong. Single frames of video, as well as short clips are 100%
allowable.

What part of " within their rights to ask" did you misunderstand ?

Graham
 
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