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Smoke detector with earth leak feature

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qmu

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi all,
I am wondering if such a thing exists:
A Smoke-detector which you plug to the electric socket: if it detects
smoke, it makes some current leak from phase to ground wire, hence
tripping the Earth Leakage Circuit Breaker of the house.
Possibly it can also emit the sound alarm (battery powered), but it's
not required for me.
This thing would be very good for fires of electrical origin...
Does it exist?
Thank you
 
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Proteus VII

Jan 1, 1970
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user qmu

have you been ingesting hallucinogens or mind altering drugs such as
cannabis or crystal meth

I am Proteus
 
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Tomi Holger Engdahl

Jan 1, 1970
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qmu said:
Hi all,
I am wondering if such a thing exists:
A Smoke-detector which you plug to the electric socket: if it detects
smoke, it makes some current leak from phase to ground wire, hence
tripping the Earth Leakage Circuit Breaker of the house.
Possibly it can also emit the sound alarm (battery powered), but it's
not required for me.
This thing would be very good for fires of electrical origin...
Does it exist?
Thank you

I have read from some magazine that some proapbly
Finnish company had made a product pretty close to what you have.
There is a whole house Earth Leakage Circuit Breaker
on the main electrical panel. Then the fire detector
system will make that to trip (cause intentional
leakage or someting that is detected as leakage)
when smoke detector detects smoke.
 
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Proteus VII

Jan 1, 1970
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Group users

so do you figure that if a fire broke out late at night in someones
house all the lights should be turned off with a device controling your
electrical service

let's see what do you all think group

the home owner and his enitre family and perhaps a guest or two will be
guided and find their way out to a safe escape with the lighting offered
by the flames engulfing the residence

you don't have to be a supercomputer to see that that is not a very good
idea

I am Proteus
 
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Eric

Jan 1, 1970
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So every fire, whether electrical or not, cuts off all the house lighting.
Clever or what?

John
Yeah burn the toast and out go the lights...
 
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StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt

Jan 1, 1970
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Group users

so do you figure that if a fire broke out late at night in someones
house all the lights should be turned off with a device controling your
electrical service

let's see what do you all think group

You're an idiot. Any shorted runs would open the breaker for that run.
the home owner and his enitre family and perhaps a guest or two will be
guided and find their way out to a safe escape with the lighting offered
by the flames engulfing the residence

NO, dumbass. A fire causes smoke, and it is pitch black all the way
down to just above the floor.
you don't have to be a supercomputer to see that that is not a very good
idea

You need an education, however, to see that what we have is fine. That
education is something you do not possess.
I am Proteus

You are a retard.
 
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Proteus VII

Jan 1, 1970
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user Zarathustra

you are the most retarded idiotic individual on the internet

go ahead and help him make such a device I predict the venture will be
very successful in the commercial/industrial world

just don't expect the general public to purchase and make use of such
device in their homes and other residential applications

if the latter business venture fails I will deep probe you so deep you
won't make the mistake of misjudging pure unadulterated knowledge

I am Proteus
 
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qmu

Jan 1, 1970
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qmu said:
Hi all,
I am wondering if such a thing exists:
.......

I will clarify:

The idea was meant to be used in areas where people normally don't live!

Obviously in case someone is around a good sounding alarm and lights on
would be better. (ok the sounding alarm is always better than no-sound)

If the fire is of electrical origin, I'd say it would be better to stop
electricity as soon as smoke is detected, than stopping it some 5-10
minutes later when the short circuit is so serious that the 3KW limit is
passed.

Now the discussion can be on the basis of: what is the chance that the
fire is already self-sustained when smoke is detected? If it is very
high like 70% or more, then probably the object is useless (but not
counterproductive). I am not totally sure of the sensitivity of smoke
detectors, and of the time it takes for the smoke to spread.
 
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