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Robertm

Jan 1, 1970
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I currently have stand alone battery smoke detectors and I'm going to be
adding fire protection to my Vista 15P. The battery operated smoke detector
I'm using in the kitchen now occasionally sounds when cooking so I pull the
battery and put it back in later. How does one get around this problem with
it integrated into a monitored alarm system? I don't want the fire
department showing up here every time I fry bacon. Use a rate of rise
instead of a smoke? Don't put a detector in the kitchen? Is there a way to
disable protection for an hour in that zone?

Bob
 
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Crash Gordon

Jan 1, 1970
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I don't put smokes in kitchens or in family rooms that have fireplaces. I'll
use a rate of rise heat instead - I'll put a smoke just outside the kitchen
but not in it...each app. is different.

The 15P can use 2 or 4 wire smokes...use the 2 wire ones that way you don't
have to muck around with power supervision relays...and of course you will
use fire-rated wire.
 
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joe

Jan 1, 1970
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Robertm said:
I currently have stand alone battery smoke detectors and I'm going to be
adding fire protection to my Vista 15P. The battery operated smoke detector
I'm using in the kitchen now occasionally sounds when cooking so I pull the
battery and put it back in later. How does one get around this problem with
it integrated into a monitored alarm system? I don't want the fire
department showing up here every time I fry bacon. Use a rate of rise
instead of a smoke? Don't put a detector in the kitchen? Is there a way to
disable protection for an hour in that zone?

Bob
no smokes in the kitchen.
heat detectors are ok in kitchen area and garage adn crawl space by
heaters etc.
for attics 200degree or higher detectors recommended.
rate of rise and fixed temp combo units are good for faster catch than
just fixed temp.
 
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Robertm

Jan 1, 1970
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Crash Gordon said:
The 15P can use 2 or 4 wire smokes...use the 2 wire ones that way you
don't have to muck around with power supervision relays...and of course
you will use fire-rated wire.

It's in the old part of the house so I'm using wireless. Cost a little more
but I won't have to retrofit wiring. The new part of the house is hardwired.

Bob
 
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Mike Sokoly

Jan 1, 1970
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Crash said:
I don't put smokes in kitchens or in family rooms that have fireplaces. I'll
use a rate of rise heat instead - I'll put a smoke just outside the kitchen
but not in it...each app. is different.

The 15P can use 2 or 4 wire smokes...use the 2 wire ones that way you don't
have to muck around with power supervision relays...and of course you will
use fire-rated wire.
Hey Crash,
THANK YOU for informing him about using fire rated wire!!!!!!!!!!!
Out here on Long Island , I'm doing a 1.5 Mil house and right NEXT DOOR
(same design house ) is a semi large LI Company who shall remain
nameless (located in Holbrook, and the "specialize" in Audio) who has
prewired ALL the smokes and heats with 22/4 quad wire! Licensing MEANS
nothing! EDUCATION is a MUST. (and he's not even an electrician BUT his
chief installer/partner worked as a counter jerk for ADI for years!
Guess he learned NOTHING!
Mike Sokoly
MES Security Systems
 
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Crash Gordon

Jan 1, 1970
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I run into that all the time..quad for smokes...I won't install on it if its
fired that way...but at least I can use it to pull new firewire.

BUT almost as bad is when someone does run firewire...but 2 conductor home
runs to each smoke. Sheesh...there's a buncho morons out there.

Hey, I'm from Lawnguylan' originally.
 
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Mike Sokoly

Jan 1, 1970
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Crash said:
I run into that all the time..quad for smokes...I won't install on it if its
fired that way...but at least I can use it to pull new firewire.

BUT almost as bad is when someone does run firewire...but 2 conductor home
runs to each smoke. Sheesh...there's a buncho morons out there.

Hey, I'm from Lawnguylan' originally.

Hey Crash,
How come you didn't stay? Jim and I need company!
Ditto the 2 wire home run scene. Most often seen is 4-Wire smokes with
no EOL Relay, or electricyans trying to gimick 120V hardwireds into an
alarm system. How about: 2-Wire compatibility with the control panel?
Pyrotectors on a Ademco Vist 20P?
Mike S
 
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Crash Gordon

Jan 1, 1970
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Yep...seen all that crap.

I got bored with snow/slush/rain and gray skies from November - March.
Hardly ever rains out here...can work my guys to death. & I can wear shorts
almost all year.


:)
 
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