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Small Drill Presses For Electronics Repair

Discussion in 'Electronic Repair' started by Too_Many_Tools, Jul 5, 2007.

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  1. I am not playing 20 questions.

    Based on your response it sounds like you have little on hands
    electronics experience...drill presses are used in electronics
    development and repair.

    I asked for what others have for a drill press which used for
    electronics work.

    Thank you for your response.

    TMT
     
  2. I for one Michael would like to hear more about your setup...do you
    have a link to pictures?

    TMT
     
  3. Smitty Two

    Smitty Two Guest

    Little hands on experience? Well, in repair, that's true. In electronics
    manufacturing, I've got 22 years as production manager of a job shop.
    Across the hall is a full machine shop including toolroom lathes and
    mills, CNC equipment, machining centers, and turning centers.

    I've put together a few million PCBAs, and I'll wager I've personally
    hand soldered a few hundred thousand solder joints. I've never run into
    any need to use a drill press in PCB work, save maybe making a
    rudimentary prototype board, and for that I'd use a CNC mill, anyway.

    Since you've been nothing but coy about your reason for inquiring, I'd
    call that playing 20 questions. You have YET to tell us WHY you want a
    drill press. Saying it's for "development and repair" is completely
    meaningless. Cut into a multilayer board with a *drill press* in order
    to make ECOs to the circuit? Have fun with that.
     
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  5. Smitty Two

    Smitty Two Guest

     
  6. Arfa Daily

    Arfa Daily Guest

    Ne' mind Smitty. We all still love ya ! For what it's worth, I have been
    directly involved, right down at floor level, with electronic REPAIR for
    over 37 years now, working on a huge variety of equipment from full-blown
    industrial to general domestic, and in all that time, I have never had to go
    down to break an internal layer of a board to effect an ECO. That's not to
    say that I haven't *seen* it done. I used to work with some computer
    graphics equipment that employed, as I recall, 6-layer boards, but it might
    even have been 8, now I think back. Some prototypes or early development
    versions of boards had occasionally had this done to them at the factory,
    but such problems were quickly corrected in the design. If you had to do
    enough of them that it involved having to have your own equipment for doing
    it at a repair, rather than factory level, I don't think that it says much
    for the design of the board, or of the ability of the designers and PCB
    manufacturers to rapidly correct any such problems of design, 'on the fly'.
    If you are figuring on having to do touchy delicate work like this on a
    regular basis, I hope that your clients have deep wallets to be able to pay
    you what you will need to charge to make a living at it ...

    Arfa
     
  7. m kinsler

    m kinsler Guest

    Perhaps I've led a sheltered life with the groups I normally post to
    and am thus feeling unjustifiably offended by the unpleasant exchanges
    I've been encountering on this one lately. There is never
    justification to be either crude or impolite within a technical
    group.

    In this particular squabble, it seems that the confusion might stem
    from the fact that drill presses do not loom large in the arsenal of
    electronics repair equipment. There are many levels of electronics
    repair, and most of them don't require a drill press.

    There are, as has been stated, procedures which require fancy
    operations on printed-circuit boards: you'd have to cut out sections
    of foil or do weird stuff related to waveguides integrated into
    microwave equipment. For that I suppose you'd want some sort of
    precision mill-drill, with the servos and maybe a digital read-out.

    In the sort of stuff I've done, the usual application for any sort of
    power drill is to drill out a stripped screw. I used to use a hand
    drill to make an occasional hole for mounting a heat sink or
    something, but that was about it.

    If you are building or perhaps modifying electronic equipment, that's
    another story. For this, you'd need a minimal bench-top machine with
    about an eight-inch swing, the sort of thing that Harbor Freight Tools
    sells on sale for about fifty bucks. I have one, and it's perfectly
    fine.

    So calm down, already.

    M Kinsler
     
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  9. GregS

    GregS Guest

     
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  13. The only use that I know of for a drill press in electronics PCB
    repair or manufacturing is for an ECO, where you drill out a Via because
    of a layout change, or mistake. Otherwise, the floor model drill press
    is used to remove rivets. to make sure you remove no other material.


    --
    Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
    prove it.
    Member of DAV #85.

    Michael A. Terrell
    Central Florida
     

  14. He has the same chip on his shoulder on: where most people either ignore him, or have him killfiled.


    --
    Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
    prove it.
    Member of DAV #85.

    Michael A. Terrell
    Central Florida
     
  15. Smitty Two

    Smitty Two Guest

     
  16. LOL...yeah Mike...just like YOU are doing now. *chuckle*

    Mike...are you serious thinking that siding with Potty Mouth here will
    add to YOUR credibility?

    You are only revealing your own twisted political agenda....and when
    did you start stalking as a hobby?

    I guess you meet all kinds on Usenet.

    TMT
     

  17. I didn't "Side" with anyone. I merly pointed out that your attitude
    was the same on another newsgroup that was very relieved when you were
    gone for a while.


    Stalking? I've been on the newgroup for years. It seems like you're
    the one following me around.


    Luckily, most are NOT like you.



    --
    Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
    prove it.
    Member of DAV #85.

    Michael A. Terrell
    Central Florida
     
  18. Guest

    Over in rcm, Too Many Tools already said that he had purchased a small
    drill press. I think he is just trying to get people to say that what
    he bought is useful in electronic repair.

    Dan
     
  19. Radiosrfun

    Radiosrfun Guest

    Maybe(?) he is into "PC" fabrication! A drill press could/would certainly be
    handy for that. OR if he is into reworking metal for repairing an item or
    maybe making cases/cabinets/enclosures for electronics equipment. But for
    repairs, I doubt it. I "hope" he's not using one with a screwdriver tip or a
    socket tip for removing or replacing hardware! For doing PC boards, I have a
    dremel with a small stand which works well and is not bulky/heavy or
    cumbersome to use - for my "occasional" PC board making.

    Just my guess and 2 cents.

    L.
     
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