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Dear Friends,
I am manufacturing terminal blocks. I am willing to design test
equipment for "short time withstand current" test that a terminal
block shall be capable of withstanding for 1 second current which
corresponds to 120 A/ mm² of its rated cross-section. As I produce
terminal blocks with maximum 150 mm² cross-section so the concerning
test apparatus should be capable of supplying maximum 18000 A for 1 s.
Kindly let me know a basic idea to start my project

Best regards,
Hamidreza
 
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Stanislaw Flatto

Jan 1, 1970
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Dear Friends,
I am manufacturing terminal blocks. I am willing to design test
equipment for "short time withstand current" test that a terminal
block shall be capable of withstanding for 1 second current which
corresponds to 120 A/ mm² of its rated cross-section. As I produce
terminal blocks with maximum 150 mm² cross-section so the concerning
test apparatus should be capable of supplying maximum 18000 A for 1 s.
Kindly let me know a basic idea to start my project

Best regards,
Hamidreza
Seems like a spot welder should do the trick. Some year ago I certified
a spot welder which carried 50K Amperes for 12 cycles of 50 Hz line. It
shut down all iodine lights in the hangar it was installed in on every
shot till a special high voltage to 3 phase transformer was installed
for feeding it. ( Don't recall if it could continue for 50 cycles)

Happy hunting.

Stanislaw
Slack user from Ulladulla.
 
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budgie

Jan 1, 1970
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Dear Friends,
I am manufacturing terminal blocks. I am willing to design test
equipment for "short time withstand current" test that a terminal
block shall be capable of withstanding for 1 second current which
corresponds to 120 A/ mm² of its rated cross-section. As I produce
terminal blocks with maximum 150 mm² cross-section so the concerning
test apparatus should be capable of supplying maximum 18000 A for 1 s.
Kindly let me know a basic idea to start my project

google for "current injection testing"
 
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Terry Given

Jan 1, 1970
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Dear Friends,
I am manufacturing terminal blocks. I am willing to design test
equipment for "short time withstand current" test that a terminal
block shall be capable of withstanding for 1 second current which
corresponds to 120 A/ mm² of its rated cross-section. As I produce
terminal blocks with maximum 150 mm² cross-section so the concerning
test apparatus should be capable of supplying maximum 18000 A for 1 s.
Kindly let me know a basic idea to start my project

Best regards,
Hamidreza

Get a large toroidal transformer, with a suitably large hole in the
middle. something like a giant audio transformer might do; if I were
doing it I would use one of my 4kVA variacs, after I ripped out the
middle portion.

A single turn thru the center will allow for many, many amps when it is
shorted.

drive the toroid with a variac, and measure the current with a (big)
clip-on ammeter.

I have done this for 6,000A. At 18kA you will need a lot of copper, and
keep the loop SHORT.

HTH

Cheers
Terry
 
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Paul E. Schoen

Jan 1, 1970
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Dear Friends,
I am manufacturing terminal blocks. I am willing to design test
equipment for "short time withstand current" test that a terminal
block shall be capable of withstanding for 1 second current which
corresponds to 120 A/ mm² of its rated cross-section. As I produce
terminal blocks with maximum 150 mm² cross-section so the concerning
test apparatus should be capable of supplying maximum 18000 A for 1 s.
Kindly let me know a basic idea to start my project

Best regards,
Hamidreza

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This is very similar to high current primary injection testing for circuit
breakers. I have designed and/or worked on many AC and some DC test sets
which would perform the test you require. The voltage you need for this
current will determine what sort of transformer you need, and this will
depend on the overall impedance of the load, which will be the terminal
block itself and the wire used with it.

As others have posted, a toroidal transformer with one or two turns of
heavy wire or copper bus is a good start. You can easily get 1000 amps
continuous at about 1 volt from a 1 kVA toroid with two turns of #4-0
welding cable. You can use this to determine the impedance of the load, by
applying the 1000 amps and reading the voltage.

Next, you will need to figure what it will take to get the 18,000 amperes
you require. You will need 18 times the voltage you determined for 1000
amps, and the transformer will have to be able to put out 18 times the
current. Most high ratio transformers have an internal impedance of 3% to
10%. A 10% impedance transformer will put out about 10 times its normal
rating into a short. A 3% unit will give about 30x. The transformer can
safely generate such high currents for a short duration, followed by a
period of cooling, which is known as a duty cycle. This is usually based on
the square of the overload current, and a 10x output would require a 1%
duty cycle. One second ON, followed by about two minutes of cooling should
be OK. For breaker testing, the 10x rating is usually for about 0.1 seconds
(for instantaneous trip), and 0.5 seconds for short time at about 5x.

From my experience, you will probably need a test set that is rated at
about 2000 amperes continuous with at least 10 volts output to get 18,000
amperes into any sort of wire and terminal block. We usually use bus bar
for testing beyond about 5,000 amperes. A 20 kVA test set like this will
weigh about 500 pounds and will be about the size of a small desk.

One of the suggestions to use a DC welder is a very good alternative. High
power spot welders are available fairly cheaply on eBay and other surplus
outlets. They use high frequency (about 1000-2000 Hz) to drive the output
transformer and diodes, so it can be 20 or 30 times smaller and lighter
than a 60 Hz AC tester. Also, DC eliminates most of the inductance
limitations, although you need to monitor the current with a storage scope
or a specially designed instrument to make sure the rise and fall time is
not significant. For one second, it should be minimal.

The actual measurement poses another problem by adding more impedance (if
you use a shunt or iron core CT). A Rogowski coil or Hall effect device
will provide minimal extra burden but the circuitry becomes more complex.

There is more information on this technology on my website
www.pstech-inc.com. If you would like to purchase or rent a test set which
will do just what you need, please see www.etiinc.com. I'm willing to help
if you want to make your own test set from surplus parts. I would need more
complete specifications on accuracy and load configuration, however.

Good luck,

Paul
 
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