Selling to the Grid

[joe montana]

Hello,

Can anyone tell me how I can sell electricity to the Grid..

Do I just need a convertor where the power comes in, and
thus the electric company sends me a check...

 

[Anthony Matonak]

Hello,
Hello,

Can anyone tell me how I can sell electricity to the Grid..

Yes. You call your electric company and ask them. The details
will vary from one location to another and from one power
company to another.

Do I just need a convertor where the power comes in, and
thus the electric company sends me a check...

You haven't given us enough information to tell you much that
is useful. What is it that you want to do? How do you plan to
generate the electricity in the first place? Different power
generation technologies will have different technical and
legal issues.

Anthony

 

[Winston]

Hello,

Can anyone tell me how I can sell electricity to the Grid..

Do I just need a convertor where the power comes in, and
thus the electric company sends me a check...

Some basics first:
http://www.homepower.com/files/HP104_72.pdf

(Power companies largely refuse to purchase power at retail rates.)

--Winston

 

[Steve Spence]

It all depends on what you are using to generate your power. Some states
limit you to pv, some include wind, very few will allow a engine driven
generator, or hydro. Most won't "pay" you, but they will let you zero
your bill. It takes some specialized equipment (grid tie inverters) and
some signed agreements. Very pricey.

Steve Spence
Dir., Green Trust
http://www.green-trust.org

 

[The Equalizer]

Can anyone tell me how I can sell electricity to the Grid..

Do I just need a convertor where the power comes in, and
thus the electric company sends me a check...

Yeah, you need a synchronous inverter (that steps up your generated voltage and then matches it with
the frequency of the grid's), they can be very expensive (a few thousand dollars). Depending on how
much power you are generating, I have seen them connected as simply as a plug in a wall outlet to
physically hardwiring the inverter to your fuse panel.

You can sell back to the grid in one of two ways, legitimately with your power providers permission
(usually requires expensive disconnects, separate meters, etc) or going "guerrilla" and just hook it
up and don't say a thing. Go to www.homepower.com and click upper left corner "Magazine" then click
on "Guerrilla Solar" to read about a few dozen articles of people doing it that way.

Have fun!

 

['Captain' Kirk DeHaan]

It all depends on what you are using to generate your power. Some states
limit you to pv, some include wind, very few will allow a engine driven
generator, or hydro. Most won't "pay" you, but they will let you zero
your bill. It takes some specialized equipment (grid tie inverters) and
some signed agreements. Very pricey.

Steve Spence
Dir., Green Trust
http://www.green-trust.org

In Idaho, the last I heard, they require $1M of liability insurance to
connect to the grid.

 

[Gymy Bob]

Yeah your 2KW of solar panels might backup into the system and burn out the
2000MCM 550KV power lines on the towers!

LOL

 

[Gymy Bob]

Why not spend the money on a contract with the grid company and get an
exclusive line to your house and never have brownouts.

 

['Captain' Kirk DeHaan]

Why not spend the money on a contract with the grid company and get an
exclusive line to your house and never have brownouts.

I'm off grid completely and have NEVER had a brownout nor been without
power. Can't say the same for those connected to the grid here.

 

[Gymy Bob]

I have never had a brownout and am completely subservient to the grid so
far.
This may, and probably will change in the future here. We have privatized
our electric utilities and I work for one of them. I can see what is coming.
The politicians have to be absolutely blind, ignorant and stupid not to see
what is coming.

 

[Anthony Matonak]

I have never had a brownout and am completely subservient to the grid so
far.
This may, and probably will change in the future here. We have privatized
our electric utilities and I work for one of them. I can see what is coming.
The politicians have to be absolutely blind, ignorant and stupid not to see
what is coming.

....

Seeing it coming and being able (or wanting to) do anything about it
are significantly different. Here in California they changed the rules
so that power companies could charge more when they produce less. With
these rules the power companies work very hard to insure that they do
NOT have enough production capacity online, even if they have to bend
a few laws to do it.

Since politicians seem to work for themselves, why would they want to
stop the power companies from making lots more money?

Anthony

 

[Gymy Bob]

Are you admitting that letting government workers run things was more
efficient and economical in this case?

Hmmmm... sounds like Communism/Socialism at it's finest and the USanians
will have to live with it no matter what the cost of the electricity. On
top of all that they can never let it be admitted for fear of reprisal...LOL

You guys (USanians) need to get some oil wells in your portfolio...LOL

 

[m II]

Why not spend the money on a contract with the grid company and get an
exclusive line to your house and never have brownouts.

That's funny.





mike

 

[Gymy Bob]

Many customers do it with us.

That's funny.





mike


--
"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is
probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners."

Ernst Jan Plugge

 

[m II]

Many customers do it with us.

Do what with you?




mike

 

[Gymy Bob]

There is the problem. You use Mozzilla and haven't learned to thread. Bottom
post my ass.

Do I really have to repeat the whole converstaion or maybe you can
compensate for or better yet just get Outlook Express that supports 1990s
styles.

 

[m II]

There is the problem. You use Mozzilla and haven't learned to thread. Bottom
post my ass.


Do I really have to repeat the whole converstaion or maybe you can
compensate for or better yet just get Outlook Express that supports 1990s
styles.

Top posters also lack anything resembling a sense of humour. That,
combined with their well known penchant for devil worship, make them
shunned at most church socials and places where civilized sorts meet.

Anyone who recommends Outlook Express, with all it's security flaws,
is doing a disservice to humanity.



mike

 

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We middle posters protest this entire line of argument..

 

[m II]

We middle posters protest this entire line of argument..

I could learn to hate you.



mike

 

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I could learn to hate you.



mike