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Discussion in 'Home Power and Microgeneration' started by joe montana, Dec 16, 2004.

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  1. joe montana

    joe montana Guest

    Hello,

    Can anyone tell me how I can sell electricity to the Grid..

    Do I just need a convertor where the power comes in, and
    thus the electric company sends me a check...
     
  2. Yes. You call your electric company and ask them. The details
    will vary from one location to another and from one power
    company to another.
    You haven't given us enough information to tell you much that
    is useful. What is it that you want to do? How do you plan to
    generate the electricity in the first place? Different power
    generation technologies will have different technical and
    legal issues.

    Anthony
     
  3. Winston

    Winston Guest

    Some basics first:
    http://www.homepower.com/files/HP104_72.pdf

    (Power companies largely refuse to purchase power at retail rates.)

    --Winston
     
  4. Steve Spence

    Steve Spence Guest

    It all depends on what you are using to generate your power. Some states
    limit you to pv, some include wind, very few will allow a engine driven
    generator, or hydro. Most won't "pay" you, but they will let you zero
    your bill. It takes some specialized equipment (grid tie inverters) and
    some signed agreements. Very pricey.

    Steve Spence
    Dir., Green Trust
    http://www.green-trust.org
     
  5. Yeah, you need a synchronous inverter (that steps up your generated voltage and then matches it with
    the frequency of the grid's), they can be very expensive (a few thousand dollars). Depending on how
    much power you are generating, I have seen them connected as simply as a plug in a wall outlet to
    physically hardwiring the inverter to your fuse panel.

    You can sell back to the grid in one of two ways, legitimately with your power providers permission
    (usually requires expensive disconnects, separate meters, etc) or going "guerrilla" and just hook it
    up and don't say a thing. Go to www.homepower.com and click upper left corner "Magazine" then click
    on "Guerrilla Solar" to read about a few dozen articles of people doing it that way.

    Have fun!
     
  6. In Idaho, the last I heard, they require $1M of liability insurance to
    connect to the grid.
     
  7. Gymy Bob

    Gymy Bob Guest

    Yeah your 2KW of solar panels might backup into the system and burn out the
    2000MCM 550KV power lines on the towers!

    LOL
     
  8. Gymy Bob

    Gymy Bob Guest

    Why not spend the money on a contract with the grid company and get an
    exclusive line to your house and never have brownouts.
     
  9. I'm off grid completely and have NEVER had a brownout nor been without
    power. Can't say the same for those connected to the grid here.
     
  10. Gymy Bob

    Gymy Bob Guest

    I have never had a brownout and am completely subservient to the grid so
    far.
    This may, and probably will change in the future here. We have privatized
    our electric utilities and I work for one of them. I can see what is coming.
    The politicians have to be absolutely blind, ignorant and stupid not to see
    what is coming.
     
  11. ....

    Seeing it coming and being able (or wanting to) do anything about it
    are significantly different. Here in California they changed the rules
    so that power companies could charge more when they produce less. With
    these rules the power companies work very hard to insure that they do
    NOT have enough production capacity online, even if they have to bend
    a few laws to do it.

    Since politicians seem to work for themselves, why would they want to
    stop the power companies from making lots more money?

    Anthony
     
  12. Gymy Bob

    Gymy Bob Guest

    Are you admitting that letting government workers run things was more
    efficient and economical in this case?

    Hmmmm... sounds like Communism/Socialism at it's finest and the USanians
    will have to live with it no matter what the cost of the electricity. On
    top of all that they can never let it be admitted for fear of reprisal...LOL

    You guys (USanians) need to get some oil wells in your portfolio...LOL
     
  13. m II

    m II Guest


    That's funny.





    mike
     
  14. Gymy Bob

    Gymy Bob Guest

    Many customers do it with us.

     
  15. m II

    m II Guest


    Do what with you?




    mike
     
  16. Gymy Bob

    Gymy Bob Guest

    There is the problem. You use Mozzilla and haven't learned to thread. Bottom
    post my ass.

    Do I really have to repeat the whole converstaion or maybe you can
    compensate for or better yet just get Outlook Express that supports 1990s
    styles.
     
  17. m II

    m II Guest


    Top posters also lack anything resembling a sense of humour. That,
    combined with their well known penchant for devil worship, make them
    shunned at most church socials and places where civilized sorts meet.

    Anyone who recommends Outlook Express, with all it's security flaws,
    is doing a disservice to humanity.



    mike
     
  18. Guest

    We middle posters protest this entire line of argument.. :)
     
  19. m II

    m II Guest



    I could learn to hate you.



    mike
     
  20. Guest

     
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