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Discussion in 'Security Alarms' started by stonej, Mar 27, 2006.

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  1. stonej

    stonej Guest

    Probably be very expensive to install but what do you think:

    A setup where bars for windows are hidden from view in the wall and
    then when you
    leave the house you flip a switch or remote device and bars rise from
    the bottom of
    the window area to the top of the window, come home at night and lower
    the bars the
    by the same method. There would be a electric motor setup to raise and
    lower the
    bars. Crazy idea or?
     
  2. Jim Rojas

    Jim Rojas Guest

    Security shutters are nothing new. Just very expensive. The housings are
    usually mounted outside on retrofit installations, but I have seen them
    inside on new construction. Many new upscale homes in Brooklyn have them
    installed during construction. I am going back at least 20 years ago.

    Jim Rojas
     
  3. stonej

    stonej Guest

    Yeah, something like that.
     
  4. Interesting idea. Take a look at the way hurricane shutters are installed in
    upscale Florida homes. Most of these are not motorized but a worm drive
    arrangement shouldn't be difficult to build into them.

    As you mentioned, this would be an expensive system to implement. It might be
    cheaper to just use the new hurricane resistant glass in the windows. The stuff
    is designed to withstand the impact of a 2x4 shot out of an air cannon at
    something like 80 mph (I don't recall the exact specs for the test). You can
    hit it with a hammer and it won't break. I once tried jumping up and down on a
    piece of the stuff and it didn't even take a scratch.

    --

    Regards,
    Robert L Bass

    Bass Burglar Alarms
    The Online DIY Store
    http://www.BassBurglarAlarms.com
     
  5. Yeah, something like that.

    There's a company I've been looking at called NanaWall that makes folding glass
    walls. If you were to have them made with hurricane glass they could be nearly
    impenetrable. This doesn't do anything for windows but homes like mine in
    Florida have almost all sliding glass walls. We have a rather large home but
    only eight windows. There are glass walls on the lanai (Florida-speak for
    enclosed patio) side of every common room and several of the bedrooms.

    Here's a link to one of the door systems we like. Perhaps you'll get some ideas
    from what they're doing:
    http://www.nanawall.com/products/Info_WD65_Description.asp

    We're going to renovate the house in a couple of years, enlarge one bathroom and
    add an outdoor kitchen / dining room to the lanai. At the same time I plan to
    install hurricane glass since I don't like the appearance of shutters and we are
    sometimes away for months on end. Hurricanes are much more of a concern to me
    than break-ins as our community is relatively secure. The neighborhood is
    surrounded by a wall and we are installing electronically controlled gates on
    the entrance road. That should be enough to keep the IB out. :^)

    --

    Regards,
    Robert L Bass

    Bass Burglar Alarms
    The Online DIY Store
    http://www.BassBurglarAlarms.com
     
  6. Doug L

    Doug L Guest

    She should just change the locks and get a restraining order, that should
    keep the Idiot Bass (IB) out.

    Doug L
     
  7. stonej

    stonej Guest

    As you mentioned, this would be an expensive system to implement. It
    might be
    cheaper to just use the new hurricane resistant glass in the windows.
    The stuff
    is designed to withstand the impact of a 2x4 shot out of an air cannon
    at
    something like 80 mph (I don't recall the exact specs for the test).
    You can
    hit it with a hammer and it won't break. I once tried jumping up and
    down on a
    piece of the stuff and it didn't even take a scratch.


    Can you get these in non hurricane areas? How expensive are they?
     
  8. Can you get these in non hurricane areas?
    They're available everywhere. You just have to pay to have them shipped to your
    location. They're expensive. I looked at doing it to my previous home a couple
    of years ago. An average size sliding door was about $3,000 with the one
    company I interviewed. For thirteen small windows alone (not including the
    sliding doors) they wanted over $15,000 IIRC. We had three double sliders as
    well. I decided to move instead. :^)

    --

    Regards,
    Robert L Bass

    Bass Burglar Alarms
    The Online DIY Store
    http://www.BassBurglarAlarms.com
     
  9. Jim Rojas

    Jim Rojas Guest

    I have custom made plywood that I place on my windows & doors. Though we are
    pretty safe here in Tampa, the wind gusts alone is enough to make this a
    viable option.

    Home Depot & Lowes have Aluminum & Lexan storm shutters that wing nut into
    place. It's a-hell-of-alot cheaper that safety glass.

    Jim Rojas
     
  10. Frank Olson

    Frank Olson Guest



    I'd suggest you run all these plans for alterations past your Dad first.
    If either of my sons decided to move back home, I'm sure I'd want them
    to *find a job* rather than spend their time dreaming up landscaping
    schemes and such like.

    Frank Olson
    http://www.yoursecuritysource.com
     
  11. Frank Olson

    Frank Olson Guest

    Jim Rojas wrote:


    You shouldn't mention "wing" and "nut" in the same sentence in any
    response to Robert. He might decide go off on another one of his many
    aeronautical tirades against my many aliases. :)

    Of course, as this response will no doubt provoke him to post six more
    "HTML" threads, and a similar number of "PR's", I extend apologies to
    the Group in advance.

    Frank Olson
    http://www.yoursecuritysource.com

    "To be absolutely certain about something, one must know everything or
    nothing about it." Olin Miller
     
  12. I have custom made plywood that I place on my windows
    Agreed. The problem for me is my home has very large expanses of glass. The
    living room wall alone is 12 feet high by about 45 feet long, consisting of
    three pairs of sliding glass doors and a bowed out section of fixed pane glass
    surrounding the organ. There's no place to anchor plywood there.

    I really don't want to deal with plywood or Lexan every time there's a storm
    churning up the Gulf of Mexico. Besides, storms can come up while we're out of
    town. Also, our community does not allow people to leave their homes boarded up
    except when there's a hurricane coming. It would make the area look like Waco
    or Burnaby. :^)

    --

    Regards,
    Robert L Bass

    Bass Burglar Alarms
    The Online DIY Store
    http://www.BassBurglarAlarms.com
     
  13. Bob Worthy

    Bob Worthy Guest

    in message
    In the "Security idea" thread you first mentioned the availablity of
    Hurricane glass. Your next post to thread you said, above, you had 13 small
    windows and a few sliders and that it was to expensive, so you decided to
    move. You moved into a home that, now you state, has glass 12' high by 45'
    long. That would have to be on the back side. I am sure there are many more
    windows on the rest of the home, which will really drive the cost up, but
    now you say you are going to install the hurricane glass. Do they even have
    hurricane glass for the bow window? Is this just wishful thinking or are you
    looking to make that much more off of your new **spam** business?
    examples at Google under Robert L. Bass
     
  14. Mark Leuck

    Mark Leuck Guest

    What if you had a fire and the power was out?
     
  15. Jim Rojas

    Jim Rojas Guest

    There is a manual override which involves a crank pole. You have to crank
    away and hope you have enough time to do so.

    Jim Rojas
     


  16. Hmmmmmm braggiing about 2 million a year in DIY online sales and 20K is
    alot of money to you. I donate that to the local rescue services.
     
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