RoHS => tin whiskers?

[Richard Henry]

and then they list all the "suspicious" technical publications found at
the residence. Like my Structural Dynamics text, which has a *worked
example* of a plane flying into a building, complete with diagram.

Did the building fall down?

 

[Terry Given]

Did the building fall down?

No, the model was 2000kN = 200T of plane (on approach to land) at
300kph. deflection was 0.18m, 25% of allowable wind drift.

If we used a fully laden plane travelling at 600kph, that would bring it
to 0.75m deflection, which is the max allowable wind drift for this
particular structure. His conclusions: structural integrity maintained,
but shitloads of damage.

looks like you need explosives to bring down a big building with an
airplane

Cheers
Terry

 

[Terry Given]

It depends where you look:

http://www.arlo.net/lyrics/alices.shtml

"...there was all kinds of mean nasty ugly
looking people on the bench there. Mother rapers. Father stabbers. Father
rapers! Father rapers sitting right there on the bench next to me!
...

thats what my version says, I just listened to it

 

[Robert Baer]

No, the model was 2000kN = 200T of plane (on approach to land) at
300kph. deflection was 0.18m, 25% of allowable wind drift.

If we used a fully laden plane travelling at 600kph, that would bring it
to 0.75m deflection, which is the max allowable wind drift for this
particular structure. His conclusions: structural integrity maintained,
but shitloads of damage.

looks like you need explosives to bring down a big building with an
airplane

Cheers
Terry

Are you saying that the Twin Towers was destroyed by explosives, and
not the plane (which had the explosives inside)?

 

[Richard Henry]

Are you saying that the Twin Towers was destroyed by explosives, and
not the plane (which had the explosives inside)?

I took it to mean that he was mocking the twin-towers conspiracy wackos.

 

[Terry Given]

I took it to mean that he was mocking the twin-towers conspiracy wackos.

some of those "wackos" are professors of civil engineering at
prestigious british universities, who raise some uncomfortable questions:

- how come not once, in the history of tall buildings, has a building
ever collapsed onto its own footprint, yet 3 did that day (there are 3-4
companies worldwide with the skills to make this happen; we've all seen
the discovery channel)

- one of them wasnt even hit by a plane

- look closely at the footage (frame by frame). its interesting:
- why does the antenna tower begin to collapse first?
- what are the interesting, sequenced puffs seen spurting from the
side of the building in descending order?
- how come the concrete was so finely powdered?

- why werent the steel beams tested post-collapse? civil engineers are
usually all over this sort of stuff, but instead the beams were taken
away and melted down, pronto.

- has a country ever faked this sort of shit before to start a war?

- who has materially benefitted from the WOT? and to what extent?

Do I think a bunch of lunatic religious freaks flew planes into the WTC?
of course. Do I think that alone resulted in the collapse? not convinced.

If you buy the 9/11 commissions report re. the actual structural failure
mechanism, answer me this: why didnt the top portions fall off?

From a big-picture perspective, I dont really care, it aint my country.
Besides, with all its jack-booting around the globe, it had to happen to
the US eventually. In that regard it was quite impressive, and a very
clever trick.

Luckily these religious nutcakes are way, way too stupid to be very
effective. Hmm, thats not clear I am referring to the terrorists, is it.

I'm also quite glad my little country hasnt got anything the US
government really wants.

 

[Roy L. Fuchs]

- how come not once, in the history of tall buildings, has a building
ever collapsed onto its own footprint, yet 3 did that day (there are 3-4
companies worldwide with the skills to make this happen; we've all seen
the discovery channel)

You're an idiot. WHEN in history was several decades of floors
dropped onto the floors below? That is what caused the collapse,
dumbfucktard. Once several hundred tons of something get dropped, a
chain reaction occurs on the subsequent floors. Get a clue.

- one of them wasnt even hit by a plane

You're a goddamned idiot.

 

[Roy L. Fuchs]

- look closely at the footage (frame by frame). its interesting:
- why does the antenna tower begin to collapse first?

You're an idiot.

- what are the interesting, sequenced puffs seen spurting from the
side of the building in descending order?

Left overs to catch kooks like you.

- how come the concrete was so finely powdered?

You're retarded.

- why werent the steel beams tested post-collapse?

They were, dumbfuck.

civil engineers are
usually all over this sort of stuff,

They were, dumbfuck.

but instead the beams were taken
away and melted down, pronto.

You're an idiot.

 

[Roy L. Fuchs]

why didnt the top portions fall off?

Like the top portion of you? The part that had any brains...

 

[joseph2k]

I've heard that Republicans leave the curtains closed, even though they
don't need to, and Democrats leave the curtains open, even though they
should close them!

Cheers!
Rich

I suspect it is more about grandstanding, helping the sheeple think that the
office holder really votes the party line.

 

[[email protected]]

I suspect it is more about grandstanding, helping the sheeple think that the
office holder really votes the party line.

Anyone who still thinks they have any privacy never read a credit
report or saw the medical record clearing house dump your insurance
company gets.
Computers have given clerks the ability to track virtually anything
you do unless it is a face to face transaction, in cash and away from
a surveillance camera, which could be 100 miles UP.
There is a very good chance they are still tracking the cash if you
are moving very much at one time. The $10,000 thing is just a
guideline. The IRS/DEA (and I suppose "homeland" these days) looks at
any large cash transaction to or from a financial institution.
Certainly anything you transmit over the air or onto the internet is
trivial to intercept, even by marginally qualified snoops.

Just get naked and enjoy the attention. ;-)

 

[ian field]

I know that Silonex applied for one but I don't see any other
manufacturers
having done so.


I wonder if we'll see a famine of consumer electronics ? Maybe repairmen
will
come back into demand ? Maybe it'll finally be attractive to fix instead
of
throw ?

Talking of which I have 2 vcrs and one tv all needing what are probably
simple
repairs. Both vcrs developed mechanical problems not electronic. All JVC
btw.
I've not been impressed by their longevity, whilst my ancient Orion (
branded
Matsui ) vcr is still functioning 18 yrs later and the 14" tv of even
older
vintage from the same Dixons group is too !

Graham

JVC was among the first to hit the UK market with massive loss-leaders to
destroy the home manufacturers, the build quality was excellent and the
reliability legendary - now our domestic manufacturing base has all been
driven out of business the nips can throw it together any which way they
could be bothered!

 

[ian field]

Wow. Interesting story.

One thing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting

"tin plague" was mentioned a few times but I couldn't find the post it was
explained in - please can someone elaborate?