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cfjwang

Jan 1, 1970
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Repost to provide the correct picture of the metal bar. Please note that I
have exhausted the largest local electric supply house, Home Depot, eBay,
ETA (internet search of catalog), etc.

I bought a very old house and have difficulty finding a replacement circuit
breaker. The control panel is labeled as Cutler Hammer. The closest
circuit breaker I can find locally is CH130 (1 pole, 30A), shown at the top
of
http://home.comcast.net/~cfjwang/CH-Breakers.jpg . The bottom part is the
one I am trying to replace. It has a notch on one side. There is metal bar
inside the control panel that prevents the CH130 from being plugged in,
while the notch on the old circuit breaker allows for the insertion. (The
metal bar is shown in the lower middle part of
http://home.comcast.net/~cfjwang/Bar.jpg).

Can anyone help me identify what type of circuit breaker this is and where I
can buy these?

Best regards,

Jerry
 
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Duane Bozarth

Jan 1, 1970
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cfjwang said:
Repost to provide the correct picture of the metal bar. Please note that I
have exhausted the largest local electric supply house, Home Depot, eBay,
ETA (internet search of catalog), etc.

I bought a very old house and have difficulty finding a replacement circuit
breaker. The control panel is labeled as Cutler Hammer. The closest
circuit breaker I can find locally is CH130 (1 pole, 30A), shown at the top
of
http://home.comcast.net/~cfjwang/CH-Breakers.jpg . The bottom part is the
one I am trying to replace. It has a notch on one side. There is metal bar
inside the control panel that prevents the CH130 from being plugged in,
while the notch on the old circuit breaker allows for the insertion. (The
metal bar is shown in the lower middle part of
http://home.comcast.net/~cfjwang/Bar.jpg).

Can anyone help me identify what type of circuit breaker this is and where I
can buy these?

Have you pulled the box open? I'd expect a list of compatible breaker
types on the box itself.

Then, I'd contact Eaton directly...

Home Owner Support Center
-All general inquiries regarding Eaton residential products.
1-800-525-2000
 
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SQLit

Jan 1, 1970
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cfjwang said:
Repost to provide the correct picture of the metal bar. Please note that I
have exhausted the largest local electric supply house, Home Depot, eBay,
ETA (internet search of catalog), etc.

I bought a very old house and have difficulty finding a replacement circuit
breaker. The control panel is labeled as Cutler Hammer. The closest
circuit breaker I can find locally is CH130 (1 pole, 30A), shown at the top
of
http://home.comcast.net/~cfjwang/CH-Breakers.jpg . The bottom part is the
one I am trying to replace. It has a notch on one side. There is metal bar
inside the control panel that prevents the CH130 from being plugged in,
while the notch on the old circuit breaker allows for the insertion. (The
metal bar is shown in the lower middle part of
http://home.comcast.net/~cfjwang/Bar.jpg).

Can anyone help me identify what type of circuit breaker this is and where I
can buy these?

Best regards,

Jerry

Probably time to start searching/calling the obsolete breaker people. Eaton
will not have those.
 
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RBM

Jan 1, 1970
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It looks like an obsolete "CH" breaker. They've changed the design and the
new "CH" breakers have plastic feet as opposed to metal feet and no notch in
them, so they won't fit in your obsolete panel. I'd call local electricians
and ask them as many have old stuff hanging around
 
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cfjwang

Jan 1, 1970
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Duane Bozarth said:
cfjwang wrote:

Have you pulled the box open? I'd expect a list of compatible breaker
types on the box itself.

Then, I'd contact Eaton directly...

Duane,

I guess I did not try hard enough. This time I found "CH410" and "Use CH
breaker" very deep inside the control box wall.

It appears that the CH series products experienced a tooling change and the
new ones are no longer compatible to the old ones. I still have a
challenge, i.e., to find an old CH circuit breaker, but at least I know
which direction to go now.

Thanks for the useful hint.

Jerry
 
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cfjwang

Jan 1, 1970
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RBM said:
It looks like an obsolete "CH" breaker. They've changed the design and the
new "CH" breakers have plastic feet as opposed to metal feet and no notch
in them, so they won't fit in your obsolete panel. I'd call local
electricians and ask them as many have old stuff hanging around

This is correct. Per Duane's suggestion I found a label deep inside the
control box. The box is CH410 and it also says "use CH circuit breakers".

Thanks for the help.

Jerry
 
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Duane Bozarth

Jan 1, 1970
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BFoelsch said:
You might be surprised at how little a new, modern replacement panel and
breakers would cost. Look at that before you invest too much in finding a
NOS breaker.

Or surprised at how much... :)
 
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Harry

Jan 1, 1970
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Go on ebay - I bought some "out of print" circuit breakers on ebay for
my son's house. If yours are "out of print" - people on ebay know they
are worth something - and they get them and sell them.
 
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Percival P. Cassidy

Jan 1, 1970
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Or surprised at how much... :)

I bought a "Value Pack" consisting of a 200A CH panel + main breakers
and several other breakers (forget how many) at Lowe's for approx. $150.

Perce
 
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cfjwang

Jan 1, 1970
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The panel installation date is marked 1978.

**THE-RFI-EMI-GUY** said:
How old is that panel? I am curious because I have a 1980 vintage house
with similar panel and may need to expand it.


--
Joe Leikhim K4SAT
"The RFI-EMI-GUY"

The Lost Deep Thoughts By: Jack Handey
Before a mad scientist goes mad, there's probably a time
when he's only partially mad. And this is the time when he's
going to throw his best parties.
 
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cfjwang

Jan 1, 1970
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Percival P. Cassidy said:
I bought a "Value Pack" consisting of a 200A CH panel + main breakers and
several other breakers (forget how many) at Lowe's for approx. $150.

Perce

The need to get a permit to do it yourself is a hassle. Or you may have to
pay $900 to get a licensed electrician to do a simple job for you (it's hard
to get contractors in Seattle area due to the heated housing market).

Jerry
 
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Duane Bozarth

Jan 1, 1970
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Percival P. Cassidy said:
I bought a "Value Pack" consisting of a 200A CH panel + main breakers
and several other breakers (forget how many) at Lowe's for approx. $150.

You had access to cut main feed to replace it?
 
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Percival P. Cassidy

Jan 1, 1970
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You had access to cut main feed to replace it?

I haven't installed it yet, but technically it's a subpanel because the
main breaker is in the garage back-to-back with the meter, so I can kill
the power there. The existing subpanel that I will replace is in the
basement.

Perce
 
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Bud--

Jan 1, 1970
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Duane said:
You had access to cut main feed to replace it?

You can usually pull the meter. But thats dicey if the wires from the
meter to the panel have to be replaced.

Bud--
 
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