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  1. Steven O.

    Steven O. Guest

    This is a repost, because I am having an unbelievably difficult time
    tracking down a community college which offers the EE class I want on
    a distance learning basis. I'm hoping maybe someone -- someone who
    can point me in the right direction -- might catch the post this time,
    if they missed it the first time.....

    I am seeking information on any community colleges, anywhere in the
    USA, that provide distance-learning (that is, Web-based, CD-based,
    self-paced textbook study, etc.), for-credit programs of study in
    electronic engineering. I really need community college based
    classes, because costs are an issue. (The community colleges in
    Maryland, where I am based, do NOT offer such classes, and UMUC does
    not either. The nearest community college in Virginia does offer such
    classes, but I have run through their distance learning course
    offerings.)

    I have already completed studies in basics of circuits and digital
    design, but now need classes in transistor theory, basic analog
    circuits (amplifiers, op-amps, oscillators, etc.) Please reply in the
    newsgroups, or to the somewhat munged e-mail address below.

    I've searched the Web extensively, and it's becoming clear that many
    colleges -- even technically oriented community colleges, and ones
    which have many other programs of study online -- are not offering EE
    programs. I've love to know why. (I thought, maybe, it's because EE
    classes often have labs. But in fact, you can have theory only EE
    classes; and besides, many of these same schools offer
    freshman/sophomore distance learning classes in chemistry, biology,
    and physics -- fields which traditionally also have labs as well.)

    I have found, so far, exactly one college offering what I'm seeking,
    Sinclair Community College in Ohio -- but for various reasons, too
    detailed to go into here, their course is probably less than ideal for
    my needs. So, I'm searching for other community colleges offering the
    class that I'm seeking, distance learning style. Direct leads from
    people in the know -- students and engineers -- would be really
    helpful.

    Thanks so much!

    Steve O.

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  2. Richard

    Richard Guest

    Taking engineering courses without doing lab work produces engineers who
    don't know which end of a soldering iron gets hot or which end of the
    adjustable wrench should be used to pound the ICs into their sockets. That
    is probably the one that said, "Spectrum analyzer? Yeah, I saw a picture of
    one of those in one of my books, I think."
    Okay, it looks like you have been unable to meet your criteria through
    online searches. You may never meet all your requirements (for credit,
    distance learning, ee courses, low cost). One avenue you may want to explore
    is to talk with the professors at the colleges/universities that meet your
    course offering and cost criteria. You may be able to work out a modified
    schedule with them (some have more leeway to make the attendance decision
    than others), so you can do the majority of your work outside of the
    classroom (you will still have to show up for tests and labs). Assuming they
    have the authority, if you can prove to them that you have the capability to
    work independently and have a very good (legitimate) reason to not attend
    all classes, they may be willing to work with you.. I have taken many
    courses this way (I was also in my 40's and 50's and had a job that required
    me to travel). Of course, many colleges have official policies limiting the
    number of days a student can miss and some do not allow their professors to
    waive this. Others are more flexible.

    If you want to attend NO classes, you may, as you have discovered, be out of
    luck.

    One last suggestion: For the cost issue, check out scholarships, grants, and
    financial aid. You can't get any of those if you don't apply. They may make
    the difference that will allow you to take available university courses at
    nearly the same out-of-pocket costs as the (non-existent) community college
    courses.

    Richard
     
  3. Mike Berger

    Mike Berger Guest

    The University of Illinois offers distance learning classes and
    they take a lot of time and effort on the part of the professors
    and teachers. They may be more convenient for the student, but
    require more one-to-one contact from the faculty than traditional
    classes. They also require development of new materials, since
    you can't always adapt traditional classroom methods. It's
    expensive and time consuming to develop and offer those courses.
     
  4. You seem to need the basic "linear electronic" course (also sometimes called
    electronic devices) as so named by many community colleges. It covers
    diodes, power supplies, transistors, amplifiers, oscillators, op-amps, and
    so on. Its a tough course to offer on-line. It requires hands-on lab work
    to make the ideas sink in and take hold.
     
  5. Steven O.

    Steven O. Guest

    That may be true, but not everyone takes classes for the same reason.
    In my case, I am an experienced technical writer, and recently
    licensed patent agent, looking to get a stronger background for my
    work. (Check out www.OpComm.com for more info....)

    I don't doubt that, with distance-learning only, I may not be
    qualified to invent the next generation of computer, or holographic
    TV, or whatever. But, I don't need to be, I just need a good strong
    vocabulary for working with the engineers who do invent this stuff.
    Many others -- software guys who want to understand the hardware
    better, hi-tech business managers, hi-tech investors, etc. -- may have
    their own valid motives for wanting to delve deep into theory, without
    having the need (or time) to do lab work. Not to mention, there is
    always the simple pleasure of learning for the sake of learning. My
    point is, there are plenty of valid reasons for offering EE courses
    without labs, since not everyone plans to be a design engineer.
    That's a whole nother discussion. Those are great for young people
    making no money at all. If you have an income like I do, even if the
    budget is tight, forget about scholarships. Someone should fund some
    kind of "second chance" grants for adults who are returning to pursue
    things they were not ready to do when younger. (I actually seached on
    the Web for "second chance", and found a scholarship, but it's for
    women only, and I think it was, something like, only women in
    California. So if I just move cross country, and finally get that
    operation done.....)

    Steve O.

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  7. Andy Gussert

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    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

    Andy Gussert Elected President of AFT-Wisconsin

    Message of Labor Unity Overwhelmingly Endorsed

    MADISON, Wis. - Andy Gussert was elected President of AFT-Wisconsin - along
    with Kathy Kreul as Secretary and Deb Ausman as Treasurer - at the annual
    convention in Oconomowoc last Friday.

    Gussert adjourned the annual convention thanking delegates, saying "You've
    sent a clear message. We are stronger when we stand together, and we have
    power when we unite." Rank-and-file delegates representing over 16,000
    members endorsed the message, with Gussert receiving 76 percent of the vote,
    the largest margin of victory in a contested election in decades. He ran on
    a platform of bringing together diverse factions within the organization,
    and bringing more young leaders into the organization.

    "Our strength is in our diversity," said Gussert. "Our members give so much
    back to the community - everything from teaching our children to retraining
    displaced workers to researching stem-cell technologies and representing the
    underprivileged. I'm honored to work people who are devoted to public
    service." AFT-Wisconsin is a union of professionals, representing employees
    in over 500 different job classifications, including doctors, dentists,
    pharmacists, attorneys, administrative staff, teachers and professors.

    Gussert, age 36, takes over at a time when organized labor is struggling to
    appeal to appeal to younger members, while retaining the expertise and
    experience of long-standing labor activists. Many new leaders under the age
    of 40 were also elected, including Michael Childers, Richard Hay, Chris
    Romine and John Burger.

    "We are passing along the baton to a new generation," said retiring
    President Bob Beglinger, who is leaving after six years of service as leader
    and over 30 years of service on the executive board. "Andy Gussert
    represents our future, and our future looks bright."

    AFT-Wisconsin's Newly Elected Executive Board

    a.. President, Andy Gussert
    b.. Secretary, Kathy Kreul
    c.. Treasurer, Deb Ausman
    d.. Vice Presidents At Large: Mary Alsteens, John Burger, Michael
    Childers, Art Foeste, Gary Hjelm, James Leppi and Christopher Romine.
    e.. Senior Vice-President, Art Foeste
    f.. Vice President Graduate Employees, Richard Hay
    g.. Vice President Higher Education, Ray Spoto
    h.. Vice President K-12, Judith Hack
    i.. Vice President Paraprofessional and Related School Personnel, Pam
    Campbell
    j.. Vice President State Employees, Kevin Steffens


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