re-wiring Gaggia Coffee Espresso?

[Robert Harmon]

That should've read;

The crema will be the same IF both machines are in good order. They use the
same heating elements & boilers. So, based on that I'd say it's not worth
doing.

Robert

 

[news.rcn.com]

That should've read;

I suspected as much but this machine seemed so alluring

Robert

 

[Robert Harmon]

That should've read;

I suspected as much but this machine seemed so alluring

Robert

Sell it on eBay & get your money back. Be sure to note that it's 240v.

Robert (duck & cover) Harmon

 

[Robert Harmon]

Is that because you're a one-trick pony, dude? Or is that because you
can't see a way to insert your typical PID self-promotion into this
thread? This is an easy conversion, easy enough that you might be up to
the task yourself.

Robert (There's more to espresso than a stinking Silvia w/PID.)Harmon

 

[Michael Kennedy]

1. Cut the plug off the cord.

2. Install 240V plug like the one on your stove.

3. Make your coffee in the kitchen.

 

[Michael Kennedy]

Yeah its easy enough, especially if you feel that you had the skill to
rewire the coffe maker for 120v.

- Mike

 

[daveb]

yes. I agree.


there are quick mills and Isomacs and Gaggias and ???? with pids too.



(There's more to espresso than a [deleted] Silvia w/PID.)Harmon

 

[Homer J Simpson]

this whole project is NOT a good idea.

I would never undertake this for myself or a customer, period.

For an $800 machine? I bloody would find a way to make it work.

 

[Alan]

For an $800 machine? I bloody would find a way to make it work.

why not first plug it into a 220 outlet (I'm sure you've got one somewhere
in your house) and see if the machine even works, before you contemplate
rewiring or running 220 to your kitchen counter?

 

[Homer J Simpson]

why not first plug it into a 220 outlet (I'm sure you've got one somewhere
in your house) and see if the machine even works, before you contemplate
rewiring or running 220 to your kitchen counter?

That'd be my first try out.

 

[daveb]

euro 220 volt plugs don't work in the US.

euro SOCKETS are difficult to obtain.

Then an adapter to fit US 240 volt plug (typically a clothes dryer --
or less likely, an air conditioner) to a euro 220 volt SOCKET would
have to be made. -- (after finding and buying one)

OR -- other more dangerous methods could be explored.

methinks the OP is / has lost interest in the whole thing.

And BTW, 'homer'

a NEW gaggia of this type is about USD 450.00 max, let alone an
unknown UNwarranteed USED one.

dave
188

 

[Homer J Simpson]

euro 220 volt plugs don't work in the US.

I'm assuming he will cut off the plug and fit a US 240 V model.

And BTW, 'homer'

a NEW gaggia of this type is about USD 450.00 max, let alone an
unknown UNwarranteed USED one.

You don't know how cheap I am.

 

[news.rcn.com]

I'm assuming he will cut off the plug and fit a US 240 V model.


You don't know how cheap I am.

Hey guys, you don't know how cheap I am!!

After all I am the one who paid virtually nothing for it in the first place!

BTW this machine has a common triangular female plug in a hole in the back
where you can insert ANY power cable from ANY other device, especially any
desktop computer power supply. (It is the simple one which isn't the figure
8 one or the bunny ears one) And I have already said that I do have a 1500
watt transformer in my living room as well as that unusual Spanish-looking
208v A/C socket. i am perfectly prepared to test this thing out.

What I don't see happening is anyone bidding from Europe who is prepared to
pay shipping on it to outside the US???

 

[news.rcn.com]

For an $800 machine? I bloody would find a way to make it work.

(not if you were thinking of it as a replacement for a Baby and were
wondering if there was any acutal difference between the two, - when there
apparently isn't)

 

[daveb]

the shipping is SO high that most in EU stay away.


dave

 

[daveblows]

You don't have to sell it to someone in Europe. There are
plenty of US residents that have 220 volts available.

Or aren't afraid to do the power conversion themself.

Robert (It really is a piece of cake @$60 - 70.) Harmon

 

[M Berger]

You don't have to sell it to someone in Europe. There are
plenty of US residents that have 220 volts available.

 

[bigjuggler]

I have a question related to this thread

I am in a somewhat similar situation. I recently bought
used/refurbished Gaggia Classic Espresso machine. After deciding i
was lacking in heating/steaming ability, I took it to a place tha
repairs Gaggias

They confirmed that it is underpowered. Upon investigation they foun
that it was a 220V converted to 110V. It has a 110 boiler an
solenoid. They said the problem is that it needs to be rewired. The
said the only reason I am getting any heating is that there is
"return of power".They said the refurbisher just hooked the wiring u
as it was and that this is WRONG. They said that for 110 use, it need
to be completely rewired (differently).........3 hours.......$60 a
hour

I called the original vendor and he said it is fine. He says bring i
to him and he can adjust the thermostats. The other techs said th
thermostats are OK

Sooooo, who do I believe? Does the wiring have to be redone whe
converting it from 220? I do believe there is definately a powe
issue, since it works, but it is very slow to heat up for steamin
and slow to steam. It does not brew at the right temperature eithe
(160 degrees F instead of 192

I am not sure who to believe.

I know NOTHING about electronics. What do I need to know to ge
someone to fix it right

Thanks for any guidance

Crai


-------------= Posted from Ugroups.com =------------
---= Fast & Free Web Portal to Usenet Newsgroups =--
-------------= http://www.ugroups.com/ =------------

 

[Ken Weitzel]

I have a question related to this thread.

I am in a somewhat similar situation. I recently bought a
used/refurbished Gaggia Classic Espresso machine. After deciding it
was lacking in heating/steaming ability, I took it to a place that
repairs Gaggias.

They confirmed that it is underpowered. Upon investigation they found
that it was a 220V converted to 110V. It has a 110 boiler and
solenoid. They said the problem is that it needs to be rewired. They
said the only reason I am getting any heating is that there is a
"return of power".They said the refurbisher just hooked the wiring up
as it was and that this is WRONG. They said that for 110 use, it needs
to be completely rewired (differently).........3 hours.......$60 an
hour.

I called the original vendor and he said it is fine. He says bring it
to him and he can adjust the thermostats. The other techs said the
thermostats are OK.

Sooooo, who do I believe? Does the wiring have to be redone when
converting it from 220? I do believe there is definately a power
issue, since it works, but it is very slow to heat up for steaming
and slow to steam. It does not brew at the right temperature either
(160 degrees F instead of 192)

I am not sure who to believe.

I know NOTHING about electronics. What do I need to know to get
someone to fix it right?

Thanks for any guidance.

Hi...

There's a wiring diagram here (down at the bottom of the page - for a
120 volt machine, if it's of any help at all.


http://www.partsguru.com/GaggiaClassicCoffee.html#Wiring diagram

Take care.

Ken

 

[Homer J Simpson]

They said that for 110 use, it needs
to be completely rewired (differently).........3 hours.......$60 an
hour.

3 hours? 20 minutes max for a half way competent tech. Looks like the two
elements might be in series on 220, in parallel on 110. Easy

The solenoid and pump may need a step up transformer to run properly off
110. Not hard.

$20 for a transformer and 1 hour max to do all of that.

Hell, I used to repair popup toasters. Diagnose, repair and test all in
under 5 minutes. Practise makes perfect.