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Re: Phonetic Alphabet Tables

Discussion in 'Electronic Repair' started by Peter Aberrant, Apr 19, 2004.

  1. Geoff

    Geoff Guest

    Actually, landing signals are NOT flag signals. Like semaphore, they MAY
    use flags, or even lights, but that is for convenience, not meaning.

    I DO know what semaphore is, as I do know what landing signals are,
    something that you obviously do not. Please do not confuse either with
    the international code of signals, which is a letter code, using one, two
    or three letters to convey a meaning. These letters may be passed by
    morse (sound or light signalling), semaphore or by international code
    flags.

    Semaphore signals are given here :
    <http://www.anbg.gov.au/flags/semaphore.html>

    Landing signals : <http://www.fedpubs.com/subject/boat/life_saving.htm>

    The international code of signals (Flags):
    <http://flagspot.net/flags/flagicsa.html> et al

    The International code of signals (meanings):
    <http://pollux.nss.nima.mil/pubs/pubs_j_show_sections.html?
    dpath=ICOS&ptid=7&rid=1466>

    The above are international in meaning. Various navies had (still have?)
    their own private codes, hence the "international code" flag.

    In semaphore, a particular arm (or flag) position, indicates a certain
    character, in landing signals, which incidentally are nothing to do with
    aircraft, a certain arm (or flag) position indicates a defined meaning.

    You may also wish to know that morse code may be sent by flag, in a
    similar manner to semaphore. However, semaphore is the more efficient
    code requiring only one flag movement, whereas morse will typically
    require several flag movements.

    YG
     
  2. Rod Speed

    Rod Speed Guest

    Never said they were. The word either is there for a reason.
    Completely irrelevant to whether they are semaphore.
    We'll see.
    Wasnt even being discussed.
    And like I originally asked, I doubt anyone is
    bothering with semaphore FOR FUN anymore.
    No news to me boy.
    Clearly nothing to do with semaphore, as I said.

    And that is a stupid reference,
    http://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/signals.pdf
    is much more useful.
    All completely irrelevant to whether lifesaving signals are semaphore.
    All completely irrelevant to whether lifesaving signals are semaphore.
    No news to me boy.
    So aint semaphore, stupid.
    Aint relevant to what is being discussed,
    whether lifeguards use semaphore. They dont.
    More completely irrelevant waffle. Nothing to do with that stupid
    claim you made about lifeguards still using semaphore. They dont.
     
  3. Binary Era

    Binary Era Guest

    It was, but the reference was by someone else and referred to using
    the Longbow. It was not used in your reply, which was what I commented
    on. I refer you to your last comment above. HAND
     
  4. Rod Speed

    Rod Speed Guest

    And that is what I commented on, fuckwit.
    Wrong. That is obviously what I commented on, fuckwit.
    Even you should be able to bullshit your way out of your
    predicament better than that pathetic effort, fuckwit.
    GASYHUADBB, fuckwit.
     
  5. Binary Era

    Binary Era Guest

    Oh dear. I was following netiquette and trimmed my reply to the points
    you raised. As the thread was titled 'Uses of Morse code (Was Phonetic
    Alphabet Tables)' that's what I limited my reply to. Don't you have
    netiquette in your country?.....Let's see .... dot au .... nope, that
    let's you out. Sorry. And I see you're following the current strategy
    of a superpower: bad language isn't working, so let's have more bad
    language.

    Goodbye!
     
  6. Geoff

    Geoff Guest

    Where did I say that? What I said was "The signals they (the lifeguard
    equivalents) use are called "landing signals". They differ somewhat from
    semaphore, but the principal is the same."

    In that they are both waving arms/flags etc. about they are the same, but
    the meaning of the movements are quite different. Particular arm positions
    in semaphore mean different characters, unlike landing signals, where each
    "arm position" means a different action should be taken.

    YG
     
  7. Jeff

    Jeff Guest


    I doubt it you will find many lifeguards in the UK who have even
    heard of landing signals let alone use them. (particularly the
    ones that sit by my local swimming pool and blow whistles). This is
    probably because no swimmers and 99% of small boat owners will know
    what they mean either.

    Jeff
     
  8. Actually, to keep this in context, who the hell cares whether other
    radio services still use Morse code regularly or not. We in the
    Amateur Service DO still use it regularly. Surely that is what is
    of significance, n'est pas?
    --
    Chris Cox, N0UK/G4JEC NIC Handle: CC345
    UnitedHealth Technologies, MN013-N300, UNIX Solutions Group
    6150 Trenton Lane North, Plymouth, MN 55440 1-763-744-1723
    email: (work) (home)
    If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.
     
  9. Doubt it as much as you like; I'm sure that Commander Trev DOES KNOW
    FOR SURE that the Andrew still use it.
    --
    Chris Cox, N0UK/G4JEC NIC Handle: CC345
    UnitedHealth Technologies, MN013-N300, UNIX Solutions Group
    6150 Trenton Lane North, Plymouth, MN 55440 1-763-744-1723
    email: (work) (home)
    If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.
     
  10. Brian Reay

    Brian Reay Guest


    Well, it is more significant than which other services use it. However, that
    we use it was never the basis for it being an international requirement.

    SO, no matter how you argue, there hasn't been a real reason to keep Morse
    as a requirement for years.

    Of course, our Irish friend will jump in now and ask about the Morse
    Appreciation. For his benefit, I will say I don't see the reason for
    maintaining it either but have better things to concern myself with than
    worrying about it. If he sees it as an 'issue' let him argue for its
    removal.

    --
    73
    Brian
    G8OSN
    www.g8osn.org.uk
    www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk for FREE training material for all UK
    amateur radio licences
    www.phoenixradioclub.org.uk - a RADIO club specifically for those wishing
    to learn more about amateur radio
     
  11. zpk

    zpk Guest

    as someone was told in the early 1990;s at an iaru meeting...

    amateur radio is not marine radio.
    if the maritime service wish to drop morse then thats their business.

    vote called... proposor of drop-morse-in-199x was disappointed with
    the vote.


    also. itu publication on morse requirement also sated no-service
    uses it.


    hmmmmm thats strange...
    i suppose job done..no poiint in writing letters to the ra/rsgb
    anymore about getting rid of the NONSENSE REQUIREMENT ????????
    youre on record as stating it to be kept for all new licencsees.

    REMOVAL !!!

    NOT ON YOUR NELLY.

    I SAY 12WPM FOR HF OR STAY ON VHF.

    NONE OF THIS NAMBY PAMBY STUFF.

    IF I CAN PASS 12WPM (THE SECOND TIME) THEN ANYONE WHO THINKS
    THEYRE BETTER THAN ME CAN PASS IT (ON THE FIRST TIME??)
     
  12. zpk

    zpk Guest

    begorrah begorrah...

    shure isnt dat wonderful language to be typing on this newsgroup ?


    what will all these YOUNG M3's think now?
     
  13. zpk

    zpk Guest

    ahh now here me lad...
    less o' dat language on here.


    this is a cb newsgroup.

    10-4 and breaker breaker is sort-of-alright(within reason)
    but stronger stuff is just not on.

    there are young eyes on this newsgroup.

    according to one lead instructor they can be as young a 7 or 8.
     
  14. zpk

    zpk Guest

    hmmmm me thinks..youre gonna get a message from a
    certain rsgb lead instructor :)

    you might even be thrown to the killfile.
     
  15. zpk

    zpk Guest

    that has already been predicted on this newsgroup and according to a
    recent posting... the attitude is already present.
    cw sub-bands are next.

    exactly.
    no brainer.

    but you can get a 5wpm morse test
    after 4weeks practice 30minutes a day.

    not much effort is it ?
    but it is enough to cause 2500 to go away
    and get an m3 licence instead of an m0.

    and some of these moaners are on this newsgroup.
     
  16. zpk

    zpk Guest

    but you DID refer to the morse requirement as a NONSENSE and then
    referred to an advanced B-licence as a B-licence with the morse joke
    apprecitaion(with crib sheet)
    THEREBY ADOPTING MORSE CODE AS SOME SORT OF EXTRA QUALIFICATION TO
    INCREASE STATUS RELATIVE TO SOMEONE WITH ONLY AN ORDINARY B-LICENCE.

    WHICH YOU HAVE AGAIN NOW.
    REFUSAL TO SIT MORSE JOKE APPRECIATION = NO LICENCE AT ALL.
    INCENTIVE?
    YOU WANNA DA HF ... YOU PASSA DA TEST.

    THATS INCENTIVE.

    OH OH... SOMETHINGS WRONG HERE.


    MORSE ?
    oh of course...
    ....after all you have sat the
    compulsory morse appreciation(with crib sheet)


    then again....its ONLY " on the list of possibles "

    not much chance then.
     
  17. zpk

    zpk Guest


    pse explain the line in the carpet either side of the cenral area in
    the house of commons then ?

    please explain why black rod still beats on the door ?

    please explain why you drive on the left ?

    please explain why you dont have the euro, given that nearly everyone
    else around you has moved on.
     
  18. zpk

    zpk Guest

    anyone with a few brain cells that can work in real-time without
    referring to a crib-sheet are always prized.

    they are also copied a lot more than those who cant (or wont)
     
  19. zpk

    zpk Guest

    fact:
    information from a beacon shall not be used
    until it has been correctly identified.



    fact:
    cpl and higher pilots are required
    to pass a six words a minute morse *test*

    the INCENTIVE to pass the morse test is
    IF YOU WANNA YOUR PILOTS LICENCE - YOU PASSA DA TEST.

    but of course, a very similar incentive was not acceptable
    to over 2500 people





    Laugh? I nealry bought a DV27 with a neon light on top.
     
  20. john

    john Guest

    You people sure know how to beat the shit out of a threadYikes
    _ _ ... ... _ _

    .... _._

    kip
     
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