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  1. It's probably not far below the need to make a profit.
  2. John Miller

    John Miller Guest

    Yikes -- I mangled that good and proper. I had read Marty's "everyone has
    moved on" to refer to Morse, not Latin.

    John Miller
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    stuff I don't like."
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  3. Binary Era

    Binary Era Guest

    Yes, this is the sort of claptrap that the ignorant spout with grim

    Take the case of airbags fitted to cars, that is, the ones located in
    the centre of the steering wheel.

    This is all very well, but the centre of the steering wheel is where
    past generations of horn buttons used to be. When carrying out an
    evasive manoeuvre, you always knew where the horn button was.

    Now they are located on the steering-wheel spokes, you don't know
    where they are when carrying out /any/ manoeuvre. The driver might be
    safer due to the airbag, but is the /car/as/a/whole safer?

    Still, zpk comes from a country where the roads are littered with
    cowsh*t and potholes, so what else would one expect?
  4. Incognito

    Incognito Guest

    FYI: In the USA - it is legal to send CW on the "phone" bands :)-)


    Few do as a matter of courtesy. But it is heard occasionally -- mostly DXers
    making a phone contact then switching to CW for confirmation on that mode.

    My post was to indicate that CW on the Ham bands is not dead as the a poster
  5. zpk

    zpk Guest

    you still havent asked the UK CAA yet ... have you ?

    remind mr. reay...what is/was your m3 callsign ?
  6. zpk

    zpk Guest

    not as dead as some appear to want it to be.
  7. Rod Speed

    Rod Speed Guest

    Not with that specific question of requiring all pilots to be morse fluent it aint.

    And that's because there is no reduction in safety involved
    with having the NDBs morse ident so slowly that everyone
    can check the ident against what's printed on the paperwork.

    In fact the better NDB receivers decode it
    automatically and display the ident in text form.

    Completely trivial technology.
  8. Marty

    Marty Guest

    Maybe not, but with the ITU saying that CW is no longer a necessity, it wont
    be long before the new generation of hams decide its all too much

    Gee, wonder if that means that the ITU don't consider morse to be that
    important anymore????
  9. exray

    exray Guest

    We've been there, done that. Check 26-28 MHz.

  10. Brian Reay

    Brian Reay Guest

    I hope not. I wouldn't like to see CW 'die'.

    That doesn't mean people won't want to use it for fun. The Longbow was
    rendered obsolete 500+ years back but still has its adherents.

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  11. exray

    exray Guest

    Brian Reay wrote:

    Don't get me wrong because I'm a Morse mic in my shack.
    But they don't require testing for longbow skills when you order meat at
    the butcher.

    There's been anti-CW people going back to about 1930 when it had already
    been declared "obsolete". And there will continue to be complaints when
    any moron can obtain a licence (oh, thats already happened). That has
    always been true albeit in different degrees. The ham community
    screamed bloody foul when the ARRL institued "incentive" licensing. Now
    they're screaming foul because there isn't "incentive" licensing.

    I'm all in favor of no-code HF licensing as long as they don't hand over
    the CW-only bands in the process.

    In the US anyway, with the watering down of the requirements I really am
    suspect of anybody still whining about having to do a couple of hours of
    no-brainer study to obtain an Extra Class licence. On a skill level its
    about like knowing how to cook rice.

  12. I hold an extra class license but I don't have a clue how to cook rice.
  13. Rod Speed

    Rod Speed Guest

    You dont see too many still bothering with smoke
    signals, carrier pigeons, pony express, etc etc etc tho.

    Does anyone bother with semaphore anymore ? Spose some loons might.
  14. Brian Reay

    Brian Reay Guest

    Good point, in line with my own views.
    I'm not sure anti-CW is always the correct term- it suggests people want to
    'ban' CW. I don't actually ever recall anyone suggesting that. If they did,
    I won't support it.
    Been happening here for years- even when we had a written exam and
    compulsory CW test for ANY licence. Probably the 'worst' period of behaviour
    in the UK hobby was the mid / late 70s- at which time there was still the
    written exam.
    Odd, we have the same.
    Agreed 100%
    I've not heard anyone 'whining' about wanting to get the UK equivalent,
    having gone through the other stages. Quite the converse.

    I've got a batch of amateurs taking the UK Advanced exam on Monday- we are
    already looking for things to study next. Morse is on the list of
    possibles. (even though it isn't required any more here), as is taking the
    US exams.

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  15. Binary Era

    Binary Era Guest

    I think your thinking is too narrow.

    When your assault group or raiding party is dropped off at night from
    its parent group (operating in total electronic blackout) just outside
    the enemy littoral, how do you think they all communicate?

    I'll be willing to bet that smoke signals. hand signals, carrier
    pigeons, and a whole raft of non-electronic communications aids are
    used, including morse lamps and semaphore.

    Signallers are prized members of such specialist groups.
  16. Geoff

    Geoff Guest

    No, I think that there is a use for morse code and some amateurs will
    still use it, as I do. It still has use as a simple weak signal mode.
    Probably not.

  17. Brian Reay

    Brian Reay Guest

    All seems a bit extreme to get into a rally before the doors open. Why not
    just stand in front of a Landrover and break a leg?

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  18. Binary Era

    Binary Era Guest

    I thought that bit came later, after the fried breakfast then being
    run over by the wheelchairs? I'm not sure where the fettled casting
    comes in all this action......
  19. Brian Reay

    Brian Reay Guest

    Well, some people always have to be different, re-defining physical
    definitions (eg definition of power, time, the dB etc), maybe they decided
    to do this differently.

    Stick a good casting on a good leg, then "fettle" both. Think of the
    benefits, broken leg (gets you into the rallies and an excuse not to work),
    a ruined casting to throw in the bin, and something to moan about. "Win Win"

    G8OSN for FREE training material for all UK
    amateur radio licences - a RADIO club specifically for those wishing
    to learn more about amateur radio
  20. Binary Era

    Binary Era Guest

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