Re: Liability & responsibility of electrician?

[StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt]

Now I know you are simply masturbating while typing..as you dont have a
clue that there are any US manufactures left besides Haas and
Fadal....but hey...enjoy yourself and the rest of us can laugh our asses
off at you.

You're an idiot. There are about three in Cincinnati alone, including
the biggest in the world, the Cincinnati Milacron.

You are only about as dopey as it gets.

 

[StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt]

Long after Ive had the chance to piss on your grave.

Doubtful.

What is that a pussy surfer boy threat?

I will live far longer than a twit like you.

 

[Rich.]

Yes, please do. ...for *every* jurisdiction in the US.

Better yet, why don't you post what jurisdictions (states) in the USA do not
regulate the electrical trade. I guarantee that your list would be smaller
than mine, if your's exists at all.

 

[Rich.]

I worked for two years as an unlicensed electrician in upstate New
Hampshire during my college years. I don't believe any of the workers
in that shop had, or were required to have, a license or formal any
training or testing. The bulk of the work the second year was on
construction of a new multi-story hotel, biggest in the area at that
time, which google maps leads me to believe has not burned down yet.



The New Hampshire State Statues:
http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/XXX/319-C/319-C-15.htm

TITLE XXX
OCCUPATIONS AND PROFESSIONS
CHAPTER 319-C
ELECTRICIANS
Section 319-C:15
319-C:15 Violations; Penalty. -
I. A person shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, if a natural person, or a
felony if any another person, who:
(a) Makes electrical installations without being licensed under this
chapter;
(b) Being in the electrical business, employs an unlicensed person,
other than an apprentice, to make electrical installations, unless the
person or installation is exempted under this chapter;
(c) Wrongfully or fraudulently procures a license under this chapter;
(d) Violates any provision of this chapter or rule adopted by the
board; or
(e) Wrongfully or fraudulently represents himself as a person
licensed under this chapter.
II. Nothing in this chapter shall prevent a homeowner from making
electrical installations in or about a single family residence owned and
occupied by him or her or to be occupied by him or her as his or her bona
fide personal abode.
Source. 1975, 485:1. 1981, 356:16. 1994, 238:9, eff. Jan. 1, 1995. 2004,
64:1, eff. July 2, 2004.

 

[Harold and Susan Vordos]

And since there is likely no load in shop when the install was taking
place, the 245 would be a higher than normal reading.

But I question the use of "3phase" and "245 volts" in the OP question.
Around here, 245 volts would be perfectly normal for a single phase
circuit, very high for a "standard" 208/3 phase delta.

Roy
Three phase delta would not produce 208 volts unless it was a customer
provided special purpose transformer. Three Phase Delta can be wired
as corner grounded, grounded center tap in one phase with the opposite
phase being the odd higher voltage to ground known as the wild leg or
stinger, or completely ungrounded with or without ground fault
detection. The way you end up with three phase 208 is to wire the
transformer in a wye or star configuration with the transformer
primary taps set to produce 120 volts to ground on each of the three
secondary legs.
--
Tom Horne

The sole exception to that is if the wild leg is wired to ground. It then
yields 208 volts, at least on my panel.

No, I don't use it that way. Just tested voltage out of curiosity.

Harold

 

[krw]

There goes the KeithStain retard again, thinking that he manipulates
people with his wee wittle bwain.

People? NO, just you, DimBulb.

Face it, asswipe. You are wrong... again.

No, you keep getting that wrong, too. *You're* always wrong,
AlwaysWrong.

 

[krw]

Better yet, why don't you post what jurisdictions (states) in the USA do not
regulate the electrical trade. I guarantee that your list would be smaller
than mine, if your's exists at all.

It's a little tough to Google laws that don't exist, dummy.

 

[krw]

Well, Zero bit processors were quite expensive.

Jacquard looms are pretty impressive things to watch. ...and almost
300 years old. Not "zero bits" at all.

 

[krw]

It is 11.4% above the selected tap voltage though, you total fucking
retard.

Stupid, the supply was *NOT* 220V, no matter how they set the taps on
the machine.

You are incorrect, KeithStain. You are such a stain on the group.

Again, it is you who forgets his natural place in the universe,
AlwaysWrong.

 

[Rich.]

It's a little tough to Google laws that don't exist, dummy.

Yeah...that's okay, I already knew you couldn't back up your remark.

 

[krw]

Yeah...that's okay, I already knew you couldn't back up your remark.

You're as stupid as DimBulb.

 

[krw]

They operated from punched cards for the weave patterns, and had zero
bits of computer processing power.

They are CNC machines. CNC machines don't need to "process" anything.

 

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They are CNC machines. CNC machines don't need to "process" anything.

And they do NOT need to be Binary Digital, or Hexidecimal.

 

[krw]

Modern CNC is done under computer control. Punched paper tape was a
pain in the ass, but it worked until computers became cheap enough to
replace punched tape readers.

Sure, but the computer isn't much more than a (card/tape) reader.

It was a play on words.

Ok, but you could have said it wasn't run by a two-bit operating
system.

 

[krw]

And they do NOT need to be Binary Digital, or Hexidecimal.

Depends on your definition of binary. Certainly paper tape and octal
computers (DECs) worked. OTOH, I can't think of an instance of an
analog CNC machine.

 

[Rich.]

You're as stupid as DimBulb.

Now there's a well thought out response filled with due diligents and lots
of hard work. <snicker>
I'm still waiting for you to back up your remarks. I'll accept further
personal attacks on your part as your acknowledgment that you spoke without
first knowing the facts.

 

[StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt]

They are CNC machines. CNC machines don't need to "process" anything.

Yes, they do. The 'run' (read process, idiot) a program. That IS
processing.

 

[baron]

krw Inscribed thus:

Jacquard looms are pretty impressive things to watch. ...and almost
300 years old. Not "zero bits" at all.

Don't forget the fairground organs ! They work on the same punched card
system.

 

[krw]

Now there's a well thought out response filled with due diligents and lots
of hard work. <snicker>

Yeah, it's hard not to laugh at you.

I'm still waiting for you to back up your remarks. I'll accept further
personal attacks on your part as your acknowledgment that you spoke without
first knowing the facts.

I don't have to. It's clear that you can't back up your assertion
that *every* jurisdiction requires licensed electricians, which is
clearly laughable.

 

[krw]

Of COURSE you can't. By definition the C and the N sort of preclude
that.

No, it really doesn't.

Unless you are willing to call what we USED to call "analog
computers" computers these days.

They most certainly *are* computers.

BUt then almost any servo amp IS
one of those.

Not really. A servo amp, per se, isn't programmable.

Regardless the N in CNC still precludes it.

Nope.