Re: Is The King James Version The Only Perfect Translation Of The Bible?

[Sniper .308]

Proof of lying faggot capgun's shit fetish:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.flame.faggots/browse_thread/thread/be1f372eb33c5f08

You call your forgery proof faggot, nah, this is proof:

Damn those pesky IDENTICAL NNTP's, eh Blobby? Google is not your
friend, suckboy.

Seriously Blobby we all know you love shit eating and you are just
projecting that point on to others, so why don't you tell us why you
love it so much

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.flame.faggots/msg/6f75da6958c7630e...

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http://tinyurl.com/35swp8

From: bobandcarole <[email protected]>
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http://tinyurl.com/2un347

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[Robert Baer]

What is it with all this barfy language?
The answer to "Is The King James Version The Only Perfect Translation
Of The Bible?" is:
There is *NO* "perfect translation" of *ANY* text from one language
to another; it is not possible.
Idioms get lost and/or mangled.
References to things or events that are local and/or recent AT THAT
TIME are gibberished even more.
Concepts known and understood due to the culture AT THAT TIME also get
mangled or worse.

Hell, even the Muslim concept "Allah is with me" gets mangled by the
Muslims, to the extreme that "it is OK to kill oneself for <insert
excuse>" on the "theory" that dead or alive, "Allah is with me".
Well, that statement is true, but....
In Roman Catholic terms, it is a mortal sin to kill oneself; it is
even worse than to kill another.

So, while one states that blah blah is right, and another states that
blah blah is wrong, remember: both are right and both are wrong - at the
same time and on occasion on the same exact point(s).

Therefore, when arguing, have fun at it and try not to bash...

 

[Richard Henry]

In Roman Catholic terms, it is a mortal sin to kill oneself; it is
even worse than to kill another.

In Roman Catholic tersm, what is worse than a mortal sin?

 

[vernon O]

What is it with all this barfy language?
The answer to "Is The King James Version The Only Perfect Translation Of
The Bible?" is:
There is *NO* "perfect translation" of *ANY* text from one language to
another; it is not possible.
Idioms get lost and/or mangled.
References to things or events that are local and/or recent AT THAT TIME
are gibberished even more.
Concepts known and understood due to the culture AT THAT TIME also get
mangled or worse.

ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
There is no way to translate modern German to modern English.

But, the KJV is the greatest piece of English literature ever Witten,
whether accurate or not.

Did God have a hand in it/
I think so.
Do very many in 2007 understand the "English"? Absolutely not.

 

[vernon O]

In Roman Catholic tersm, what is worse than a mortal sin?

Ref: RCC, Who cares.

 

[Don Bowey]

In Roman Catholic tersm, what is worse than a mortal sin?

Probably it's not putting enough cash in the collection plate.

 

[No One]

Probably it's not putting enough cash in the collection plate.

Or using Windows.

 

[Don Bowey]

Or using Windows.

Well........ Windows2K and Vista for sure.

But XP runs as well on my Mac as it does on my PCs. Maybe Bill G bought
forbearance for XP.

 

[Meltdarok]

vernon O wrote, On 1/2/2008 10:18 PM:

ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
There is no way to translate modern German to modern English.

But, the KJV is the greatest piece of English literature ever Witten,
whether accurate or not.

Did God have a hand in it/
I think so.
Do very many in 2007 understand the "English"? Absolutely not.

I think one of the most important concepts that has slipped by modern
translators are the two words translated as *meat* in the KJV- spoken by
the resurrected Christ, as recorded in Luke and John. In each case, that
verse is the *only* place those particular words appear in the *entire*
New Testament.

Luke 24
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto
them, Have ye here any meat? 42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled
fish, and of an honeycomb. 43 And he took it, and did eat before them.
44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you,
while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were
written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms,
concerning me.

bró̄simos(G1034); gen. brosímou, masc.–fem., neut. bró̄simon, adj. from
bró̄sis (1035), food. Edible (Luke 24:41, “Have ye here any meat?â€)
--Zodhiates, S.

John 21
4 But when the morning was now come, Jesus stood on the shore: but the
disciples knew not that it was Jesus. 5 Then Jesus saith unto them,
Children, have ye any meat? They answered him, No.

prosphágion(G4371); gen. prosphagíou, neut. noun from prós (4314),
besides, and phágŠ(5315), to eat. That which is eaten along with bread;
hence, meat or fish (John 21:5, "Children, have ye any meat?").
--Zodhiates, S. (2000, c1992, c1993). The complete word study dictionary
: New Testament (electronic ed.) (G4371). Chattanooga, TN: AMG Publishers.

 

[Rich Grise]

The RC Church should love what I'm running - Linux. When you aren't
paying Bill Gates or Apple a dime, that leaves more for the collection
plate (not that I've ever contributed to it).

The religious nuts are HORRIFIED of Linux, since the permissions
are 666 for owner, user, and world readable and writable. (They
don't notice that the '666' is octal. ;-) )

Albeit, there might be a grain of truth there - making your files
world-writable is an invitation to who knows what all manner of
evil? ;-D

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Richard the Dreaded Libertarian]

ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
There is no way to translate modern German to modern English.

But, the KJV is the greatest piece of English literature ever Witten,
whether accurate or not.

Did God have a hand in it/
I think so.
Do very many in 2007 understand the "English"? Absolutely not.

Well, "Thou Shalt Not Kill" seems pretty clear to me.

The problem is, there's no prohibition against sending the sons
and daughters of your "loyal" subjects to go and do your killing
for you, which seems to be a way for the Chinos (xtians in name
only) to weasel out of that particular prohibition.

Thanks,
Rich

 

[vernon O]

Well, "Thou Shalt Not Kill" seems pretty clear to me.

So you don't know the Commandments and also don't know the instructions to
obey the government.

If you were a Christian, you would know.

 

[vernon O]

Disgrace to Christian AND disgrace to Libertarian.

 

[No One]

Don't forget about all of those daemons running around in the
background ...

I'd be in real trouble for that! I've written some daemons and
made sure they'd kill the zombies.

 

[Martin Griffith]

I'd be in real trouble for that! I've written some daemons and
made sure they'd kill the zombies.

Snowcrash?


martin

 

[Rich Grise]

I'd be in real trouble for that! I've written some daemons and made
sure they'd kill the zombies.

Oh - yeah. Daemons. Heh, heh, heh. >:->

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Richard the Dreaded Libertarian]

So you don't know the Commandments ...

Are you saying that "Thou shalt not kill" isn't one of the commandments?

You must have a different bible than the one I was taught.

... and also don't know the instructions
to obey the government.

Oh, I know them all to well, and my mission in life to resist them
and anyone else who demands obedience.

But, if you want to surrender your Humanity, and be someone's
willess little toady, you're welcome to - after all, it's YOU
who decides of your own free will just whom you're going to
install over you in place of God.

If you were a Christian, you would know.

Well, I'm not a Christian, and see above.

Good Luck!
Rich

 

[vernon O]

Are you saying that "Thou shalt not kill" isn't one of the commandments?

You must have a different bible than the one I was taught.


Oh, I know them all to well, and my mission in life to resist them
and anyone else who demands obedience.

But, if you want to surrender your Humanity, and be someone's
willess little toady, you're welcome to - after all, it's YOU
who decides of your own free will just whom you're going to
install over you in place of God.


Well, I'm not a Christian, and see above.

AND you don't know the ten commandments.
There will always be a governing body.

Don't confuse anarchy with libertarian, dummy

 

[Terry Given]

AND you don't know the ten commandments.
There will always be a governing body.

IMNSHO there should only be two commandments:

Thou Shalt Not Worship
Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You

Don't confuse anarchy with libertarian, dummy

I want a T-shirt that says this:

I deny God the Father
I deny God the Son
I deny God the Holy Spirit

(oops, thats me damned for all eternity. But I wouldnt want to spend one
second with the evil, psychopathic scumbag that is the abrahamic god, so
Im OK with that


Rich, see if you can track down an australian cult movie, Bad Boy Bubby.
I think you will really like it. Its about a boy who has never left his
house - and he's 35. There is a very memorable line:

"it is the moral imperative of every human being to think god out of
existence"



And, as far as the bible goes, Rachard Dawkins makes a pretty good point
re. the bible being the literal word of god - there are several thousand
antiquarian bibles in existence, and they are ALL DIFFERENT. Of course
having read the old & new testaments, I could simply attribute this to
god being a paranoid schizophrenic, but Ockhams razor suggests that the
bible is an entirely man-made creation. Google Mithras

Cheers
Terry

 

[No One]

And, as far as the bible goes, Rachard Dawkins makes a pretty good
point re. the bible being the literal word of god - there are several
thousand antiquarian bibles in existence, and they are ALL
DIFFERENT. Of course having read the old & new testaments, I could
simply attribute this to god being a paranoid schizophrenic, but
Ockhams razor suggests that the bible is an entirely man-made
creation. Google Mithras

Some ancient civilizations may have had an explanation for that, which
is why they made scuptures of gods that had so many heads. Here's one
for reference:
<http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/tstories/richardandlisa/images/3HampiMultiheadedGodSmall.JPG>.
It's just a case of one head not saying exactly the same thing as
another head. Sometimes they get mad at each other and aren't on
speaking terms for a while, so things start to get a bit garbled.

Or, if you want a one-headed god, there's the classic
William Blake painting of an obviously geriatric God creating the
world. So there's another explanation fof why all those "divinely
dictated" Bibles are all different: like many old guys, God was having
a senior moment!

(My fundie neighbor just read this and told me that they're adding
another 100,000 years to my sentence.)