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Re: How to stop Piracy?

Discussion in 'Electronic Basics' started by John Fields, Apr 18, 2006.

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  1. John Fields

    John Fields Guest

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    Simple. For every instance that a pirated item is dicovered in
    China, the Chinese government will pay the injured party the full
    retail price of the item in the injured party's currency.

    Either that, or kill the pirates.
     
  2. Alexander

    Alexander Guest

    If you make the software free there is no need for piracy.

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    Alexander

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  3. Joel Kolstad

    Joel Kolstad Guest

    If you make everything at Wal*Mart free there is no need for shoplifting.
     
  4. Dave

    Dave Guest

    Um, so how would a software business function.
    Maybe software should be resonably priced.

    Regards
    Dave

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  5. Nico Coesel

    Nico Coesel Guest

    Thats not far from the truth. Over here a shop has lowered the prices
    of the 10 most stolen products by 25%.
     
  6. Guest

    Did it work?
     
  7. Nico Coesel

    Nico Coesel Guest

    No results have been published yet. The price reduction was announced
    just a couple of weeks ago.
     
  8. John Fields

    John Fields Guest

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    You seem to be trying to say that it's the software authors' faults
    that piracy exists because they they didn't give their work away in
    the first place.

    It's not. Theft is theft, and the fault lies in the thief and, in
    the case of China, with the mindset of the Chinese government, which
    considers all non-Chinese to be barbarians and barely worthy of
    recognition, so stealing from us is condoned and is considered to be
    not much different than taking a brightly colored colored stone from
    a dog who dug it up and is playing with it.

    Stealing software is no different from taking a fish from someone
    who caught it instead of going out and fishing for your own supper,
    you fucking asshole.

    Grrrrr....
     
  9. Jim Thompson

    Jim Thompson Guest

    Dammit, John! Could you be more direct? I'm having trouble figuring
    out what you mean ;-)

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  10. Ken Taylor

    Ken Taylor Guest

    Does the customer have to collect the stolen goods for themselves?

    Ken
     
  11. Jasen Betts

    Jasen Betts Guest

    people would pay it money to write software.

    Bye.
    Jasen
     
  12. Jasen Betts

    Jasen Betts Guest

    Yes, but copyright infringement is not theft.

    Bye.
    Jasen
     
  13. eden

    eden Guest

    You seem to be trying to say that it's the software authors' faults
    If you are talking about governments, the US is not a good example of
    treating good non-US nations around the world. The piracy problem is
    small issue comparing to their police role here and there.

    I guess now is their time. Europian nations were stealing from the
    world for centuries (and still do in some ways). What would you do if
    you have 2 bilion of people, mainly poor? You will go to every vilige
    to shot down every small pirate factory when you can't offer something
    better?

    Anyway, I don't try to defend the pirates, just the global picture is
    not that simple

    Goran
     
  14. Ken Taylor

    Ken Taylor Guest

    That's an opinion at odds with the masses (of non-thieves, anyway).

    Ken
     
  15. Simon Scott

    Simon Scott Guest

    Im a software dev John, but I cant agree there.

    'Software' is not a physical thing - its a bunch of magnetic or optical dots
    on a disk. There is an infinite supply, in terms of being able to make as
    many copies as you like for little or no cost.

    If somebody copies my software, I dont lose my copy.

    It is very, very, *very* different to stealing a physical object from
    someone.
     
  16. John Fields

    John Fields Guest

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    Yes, it is. If it weren't there'd be no need for copyright laws,
    would there?

    Taking something written by someone else and using it without the
    author's permission is theft.
     
  17. John Fields

    John Fields Guest

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    We treat our friends well, and we treat our enemies and our friends'
    enemies badly, but that's not what we're talking about. The topic
    is how to stop piracy, and one avenue of approach would be to change
    the attitude of the Chinese government.
     
  18. John Fields

    John Fields Guest

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    True, but if the pattern of dots isn't of your own making, then
    copying them without the permission of the person who organized them
    is stealing. Same a Xeroxing a book or counterfeiting cash is
    stealing.
     
  19. Bob Masta

    Bob Masta Guest

    It's not about your physical copy of the software, it's about
    getting paid for your efforts. How do you provide yourself with
    food, clothing, and shelter if you are working for free? Or
    do you think all software should be written on a hobby basis by
    people who make their living doing something else during the
    day? (Like maybe at one of those jobs that's about to be
    outsourced!)

    Just a thought...




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  20. eden

    eden Guest

    I would say you (US Gov.) mind your interests only (as anybody else).
    And I don't believe we here can change the attitude of he Chinese
    government. Their mind their own interests, and at the moment I guess
    piracy is not their main warry. They don't have big music or sw
    industry to protect. They have many unemployeed.
    Buying pirate CDs would not concerning me so much. Big producers are
    the problem. If somebody opens a shop near you and you can get there
    cheap software, is not you the one that makes the crime.

    I know.

    Goran
     
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