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Discussion in 'Electronic Repair' started by Phil Allison, Dec 30, 2011.

  1. David Looser

    David Looser Guest

    "He" wouldn't have had the choice. It was the British government that
    declared war, not the King. Its entirely true that Edward VIII was at odds
    with the Government, and the Wallace Simpson affair gave them the excuse
    they needed to get rid of him. But he wouldn't have been able to stop
    Britain declaring war even had he still been the King in 1939.
    That seems to me to be the biggest "if" all. It seems that the invasion of
    the Soviet Union was Hitler's ultimate aim all along, the other invasions:
    Czechoslovakia, Poland, France etc. were just "warm-ups" for the main event.

  2. The marriage bit was a red herring. It was the cleaned up for the public
    version of getting rid of him because he was a fascist. If he was not
    deposed, it would have meant that there was sufficient support for the
    fascists in the UK to keep him in power.

    Assuming that support did exist, then one can easily (at least I can)
    speculate that he would of not declared war on Germany until they
    attacked the UK.

    Didn't the UK sign a non-agression pact with Germany over the Studetenland in
    September of 1938?

    With a King and Parliment supporting the fascists, how far could
    Germany have gone without the UK declaring war?

  3. Of course it's a big if, but assuming that after Germany occupied continental
    Europe to the Soviet Union, with no one attacking them, it's not impossible.

    If, as I said in a previous post, there was enough fascist support in the
    UK to leave Germany alone and the Soviet Union kept to their nonagression
    pact, Hitler may have been satisfied with what he had.

    I'm sure he had many reasons to attack the Soviet Union, IMHO one of them
    was to reduce the capability of the UK and the US by diverting supplies
    from the US to the Soviet Union.

    Bear in mind that the Soviet Union lost over 20 million citizens during the
    war, and I think that faced with a loss of that size, even Stalin would
    of sat on his hands, as it were, if he could have avoided it.

  4. It was no red herring. The Church of England in those days had a great
    deal of influence. And a future king was simply not allowed to marry a
    divorcee. Even after WW2, a princess was banned from marrying one too -
    and there was little chance of her ever becoming queen. Things are
    different now.

    BTW, simply because someone is a fascist doesn't mean to say he'll support
    each and every other one in a different country. Any more than a communist
  5. J G Miller

    J G Miller Guest

    My understanding was that the most important strategic reason for the
    eastward invasion was to take hold of the oil refineries and wells
    in Grozny and Baku which were needed to keep the German
    industrial-military complex going and of course to deny these
    supplies to the USSR which was dependent upon them.
  6. David Looser

    David Looser Guest

    Your understanding of the British constitution appears to be extremely weak.

    The "marriage issue" was no red herring, it was a genuine constitutional
    issue. The monarch is the head of the Church of England, and the Church
    banned the re-marriage of divorcees.
    How do you work that one out? Deposing a King is a very unlikely event, and
    its *not* happening would have proved nothing about support for the fascists
    in the UK.
    Again you seem to be labouring under the misapprehension that it was *his*
    choice whether to declare war or not. It was not, that choice lay with the
    government. Had Edward VIII still been King in 1939 he'd have been told in
    no uncertain terms to keep his views to himself and play the role of
    national fugurehead as the government directed.
    Yes, Chamberlain's famous "bit of paper" which applied only to the
    Sudetenland; Chamberlain naively thought that Hitler would be satisfied with
    that, history shows how misguided Chamberlain was. Britain also had a much
    more significant military pact with Poland which was unaffected by the "bit
    of paper".
    Eh! where does this "and Parliament" bit come from? What makes you think
    parliament would ever have supported the fascists?

  7. J G Miller

    J G Miller Guest

    Was WTVS actually *started* by Wayne State University though?

    From <http://www.dptv.ORG/aboutus/history.shtml>


    Detroit Public Television (DPTV) began broadcasting in 1955 as
    WTVS Channel 56, a non-commercial, educational TV station licensed
    to the Detroit Educational Television Foundation.


    From <http://media.wayne.EDU/2011/03/25/wayne-state-university-and-detroit-public-tv>


    In the 1950s and 1960s, Wayne State's University Television *co-produced*
    educational, entertainment, and public affairs programs with DPTV.

  8. J G Miller

    J G Miller Guest

    Well the fact that a lot of the early programs were co-productions
    with Wayne State would tend to suggest to viewers that WTVS was
    started by the Wayne State it-self.

    I was not able to find anything else on the web of the history
    of WTVS and I wonder if some of the first board members of
    Detroit Public Television were perhaps linked to WSU.

    On the radio dial, as you know, WSU owns and operates WDET,
    but in fact WSU did not start the station. It was originally
    WUAW and started and operated by the UAW in 1948 who sold it
    to WSU for USD 1 in 1952. This is the reason why WDET, although
    a public station, operates on a commercial frequency 101,9 MHz
    and not in the reserved public broadcasting sub-band.

    So perhaps unlike other larger and more prosperous universities,
    WSU did not have the resources to launch a radio station its-self
    and the even higher startup costs of a TV station were just out of
    the question?

    Maybe you could make some inquiries with local historians?
  9. J G Miller

    J G Miller Guest

    No, but a quick check now in the ownership database records
    pulls up the oldest record available as being from 1979,


    and this only shows the applicant name Detroit Educational
    Television Foundation, with no details of the managing committee.

    My question related to 1955 and whether any of the management
    committe of DETF were in fact from, or affliated to, Wayne State University.
  10. J G Miller

    J G Miller Guest


    Using the search facility at


    returns no record before 1979 under the item

    Consolidated Public Database System – Application Search Results

    and no record before 2001 under the item

    Consolidated Public Database System – Ownership Report Search
    To the best of my knowledge since it went on air in 1955, it
    has always been WTVS
  11. But if they'd already got the Muntz TV?
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)[email protected]+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    Intelligence isn't complete without the full picture and the full picture is
    all about doubt. Otherwise, you go the way of George Bush. - baroness Eliza
    Manningham-Buller (former head of MI5), Radio Times 3-9 September 2011.
  12. In message <>, Geoffrey S.
    I love "Studentenland" (-:! ["It's those damn students making trouble
    Accompanied by several "would of"s - but, puzzlingly, not entirely:
    there are at least two "would have"s as well.
  13. Brian Gaff

    Brian Gaff Guest

    Its about what you can get from a ringing phone line.
  14. The larger numbers look very wrong. You don't need anywhere nearly that much
    current to kill someone.

    1,0004,300 mA? Not only is it overly precise, but 1000A will cook someone,
    not just kill them.
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