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Re: Audio Precision System One Dual Domani Measuirement Systems

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Phil Allison

Jan 1, 1970
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"Arny Krueger"
I'm part of group that is readying two Audio Precision System One Dual
Domain measurement systems for market.

The units have exceptional provenance. They were owned by Stereo Review
Magazine and were the personal tools of Julian Hirsch. They still have
Hachette Publications property stickers on them.


** Has this unit got more value because of its provenance ?

Anyhow - here's a pic of one:

http://www.nessales.com/ebay/13318/Audio Precision System One Optical IO Pic (0).JPG


.... Phil
 
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Phil Allison

Jan 1, 1970
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"recursor"
Of course it has, the stickers make it much more accurate...Sheesh, don't
you know anything?


** I imagined it might be Julian Hirsch's aura and sweaty finger prints
that made the difference.

Bit like a Strat that had once belonged to Jimi Hendrix.



..... Phil
 
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Alan

Jan 1, 1970
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recursor said:
Of course it has, the stickers make it much more accurate...

but only when used with Russ Andrews cables.
 
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Don Pearce

Jan 1, 1970
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I saw a couple in Comet yesterday buying a 1m HDMI cable for £45.
You should have heard the drivel the 'knowledgeable' salesperson
was spouting.

The damage that such people can do to the TV industry is........
well, words fail me. Mind you if they are daft enough to spend so
much (and it was by no means the cheapest) rather than £4.99 at
B&Q then they deserve it.

I bought an HDMI cable in Tottenham Court Road a couple of months ago.
The bloke wanted 19.95, and I said I wouldn't pay that much. He asked
what I would give, and I held out a fiver. He was perfectly happy with
the trade. I should have offered a quid.

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John Williamson

Jan 1, 1970
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Don said:
I bought an HDMI cable in Tottenham Court Road a couple of months ago.
The bloke wanted 19.95, and I said I wouldn't pay that much. He asked
what I would give, and I held out a fiver. He was perfectly happy with
the trade. I should have offered a quid.
He'd still be mnaking a profit, too, more than likely.
 
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Peter Larsen

Jan 1, 1970
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** I imagined it might be Julian Hirsch's aura and sweaty finger
prints that made the difference.

There quite possibly is some extra market value because of it. However
Bit like a Strat that had once belonged to Jimi Hendrix.

For audiophile grade measurements use them with this:

http://www.russandrews.com/product....&customer_id=PAA3122123611657HNNULQPHBZIBBHUY

mains cable. Many banks ask you to pay for having money stored in their
system and this mains cable will remedy that problem and thus really be a
saving.

O;-)
.... Phil

Kind regards

Peter Larsen
 
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William Sommerwerck

Jan 1, 1970
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I bought an HDMI cable in Tottenham Court Road a couple of
months ago. The bloke wanted 19.95, and I said I wouldn't pay
that much. He asked what I would give, and I held out a fiver.
He was perfectly happy with the trade. I should have offered a quid.

My Pioneer Elite Kuro sits some distance from the player. I needed a 20'
HDMI cable. I bought MCM's house-brand cable for about $15. It works
perfectly, as far as I can tell.
 
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Don Pearce

Jan 1, 1970
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My Pioneer Elite Kuro sits some distance from the player. I needed a 20'
HDMI cable. I bought MCM's house-brand cable for about $15. It works
perfectly, as far as I can tell.

I'm sure you'd know instantly if it wasn't working properly.

I wish they would redesign HDMI, though. It suffers from precisely the
same defect as SCART - the cable is too thick and springy, and the
flimsy connector has no detent. Rubbish piece of design.

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William Sommerwerck

Jan 1, 1970
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I wish they would redesign HDMI, though. It suffers from precisely the
same defect as SCART -- the cable is too thick and springy, and the
flimsy connector has no detent. Rubbish piece of design.

Some are made of limper cable. Not surprisingly, given the thickness, longer
cables tend to be limper, regardless of the material.

I like the lack of a detent. You pull on the cable, and it simply falls out.
You can't cause the display (or other device) to slide or fall over.
 
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David Looser

Jan 1, 1970
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Don Pearce said:
I wish they would redesign HDMI, though. It suffers from precisely the
same defect as SCART - the cable is too thick and springy, and the
flimsy connector has no detent. Rubbish piece of design.
I entirely agree. I wish they'd retained the vastly superior DVI connector
for HDMI, but I guess its that little bit more expensive.

I don't have any confidence in the long-term reliability of the HDMI
connector and the PCB mounted sockets will be almost impossible to replace.
So I predict that plenty of otherwise perfectly servicable bits of kit will
be scrapped just because the HDMI connectors no longer make good reliable
contact.

David.
 
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Peter Larsen

Jan 1, 1970
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David said:
I don't have any confidence in the long-term reliability of the HDMI
connector and the PCB mounted sockets will be almost impossible to
replace. So I predict that plenty of otherwise perfectly servicable
bits of kit will be scrapped just because the HDMI connectors no
longer make good reliable contact.

I found some specs for harddisk interface cables, the IDE version is
designed for 5000 operations, the SATA version for 50. Divide by 10 since it
is salesmans claims and you get an intense wish of not removing and
replugging a harddisk cable unless you absolutely MUST.

My reason for the googling for this info was my having to discard a brand
new disk because of a clumsy hand move inside the box breaking the plug on
the disk. Fortunately the disk was empty.

Kind regards

Peter Larsen
 
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David Looser

Jan 1, 1970
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William Sommerwerck said:
My Pioneer Elite Kuro sits some distance from the player. I needed a 20'
HDMI cable. I bought MCM's house-brand cable for about $15. It works
perfectly, as far as I can tell.

I needed to run an HDMI connection from one room to another, so I bought a
couple of passive HDMI wallplates that simply break-out the HDMI pins to a
couple of IDC blocks which are then interconnected with two runs of Cat5
cable. With a run a about 15m between the wallplates this works flawlessly
with 1080p video.

David.
 
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Richard Tobin

Jan 1, 1970
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If we were SERIOUS audiophiles, we'd have 240 volt four pin dryer
outlets put in our listening rooms and run our power amps on 240.

If you were a serious audiophile, you would not allow mains
electricity within a mile of your listening room. You would run your
amplifier on lead-acid batteries and your turntable would be a uranium
flywheel.

-- Richard
 
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Phil Allison

Jan 1, 1970
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In the US, we have two voltages in (all but really really old)
houses: 120 and 240, although most outlets are 120, the ranges,
clothes dryers and air conditioners are 240. And that 240 is balanced.
If we were SERIOUS audiophiles, we'd have 240 volt four pin dryer
outlets put in our listening rooms and run our power amps on 240.


** Only if we were serious AUDIOPHOOLs - that is.

Home hi-fi installations can suffer from earth loop hum and transformer
radiated hum fields - neither of which is fixed by using "balanced power".



.... Phil
 
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Eiron

Jan 1, 1970
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The British electrical standards are the dumbest on planet, or at
least the dumbest I have ever run into.

From what I've seen, they are the best and safest standards of any country.
Just ask any toddler who has tried to poke a screwdriver into an outlet.

What's your problem with it? And how many of your American plugs are
hanging out of the socket with exposed pins and intermittent connections?
 
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Jerry

Jan 1, 1970
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: On 03/01/2012 00:50, [email protected] wrote:
: > The British electrical standards are the dumbest on planet,
or at
: > least the dumbest I have ever run into.
:
: From what I've seen, they are the best and safest standards of
any country.
: Just ask any toddler who has tried to poke a screwdriver into
an outlet.

A toddler in the UK "Yeah! This game of sticking things in to
these plastic shapes in the wall is fun, lets do it again!"

A toddler in the USA (120v) "That tingles, not sure that I like
that..."

A toddler in the EU (240v) *flash, bang, wallop* "That hurt
daddy, why is my finger throbbing, why has the TV (or what ever
else is on the circuit) stopped working?"

:
: What's your problem with it? And how many of your American
plugs are
: hanging out of the socket with exposed pins and intermittent
connections?
:

Indeed, the North America attitude to electrical hardware is a
farce (only of the reasons why they are still plagued by high
numbers of electrical fires), but then so is the UK's BS* 1363
standard for plug/sockets, only in the UK -and those countries
that have copied the UK- is the final circuit protection so
designed that it is easy (for the end user) to defeat it either
through ignorance or wilful tampering, thus a device requiring
protection at 3 or 5 amps co so easily end up being actually
protected at 13 amps - or 30 amps in the case of wilful
tampering...
 
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David Looser

Jan 1, 1970
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The British electrical standards are the dumbest on planet, or at
least the dumbest I have ever run into. Except for the Japanese, who
are combine the worst possible voltage standard with two different
frequencies.

In the US, we have two voltages in (all but really really old)
houses: 120 and 240, although most outlets are 120, the ranges,
clothes dryers and air conditioners are 240. And that 240 is balanced.
If we were SERIOUS audiophiles, we'd have 240 volt four pin dryer
outlets put in our listening rooms and run our power amps on 240.

A very large number of countries run their mains supplies at 220-240V, not
just the UK! Electrical standards were not designed for the benefit of
audiophools, but in practice there's nothing wrong with the 230V standard in
this regard. The standard of electrical installations I've seen in the US
are far worse than those normally encountered here. And the high-powered
audio equipment I've seen in the US runs off 120V thus supplies requiring
heavy-guage mains flex. Definitely no improvement on what we have here!

David.
 
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David Looser

Jan 1, 1970
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Jerry said:
: Just ask any toddler who has tried to poke a screwdriver into
an outlet.

A toddler in the UK "Yeah! This game of sticking things in to
these plastic shapes in the wall is fun, lets do it again!"

A toddler in the USA (120v) "That tingles, not sure that I like
that..."

A toddler in the EU (240v) *flash, bang, wallop* "That hurt
daddy, why is my finger throbbing, why has the TV (or what ever
else is on the circuit) stopped working?"
UK mains sockets have shutters, have you not noticed?
:
: What's your problem with it? And how many of your American
plugs are
: hanging out of the socket with exposed pins and intermittent
connections?
:

Indeed, the North America attitude to electrical hardware is a
farce
Agreed.

(only of the reasons why they are still plagued by high
numbers of electrical fires), but then so is the UK's BS* 1363
standard for plug/sockets, only in the UK -and those countries
that have copied the UK- is the final circuit protection so
designed that it is easy (for the end user) to defeat it either
through ignorance or wilful tampering, thus a device requiring
protection at 3 or 5 amps co so easily end up being actually
protected at 13 amps - or 30 amps in the case of wilful
tampering...
--

Have you any data to suggest that deaths or injuries are any worse here than
in countries that don't use BS1363 outlets? I was amazed to find in a modern
house in Italy that I stayed in this summer that all the sockets
(unshuttered and each rated at 10A with fuseless plugs) on each floor were
supplied from a single 25A MCB. How is that safer than the situation here?

David.
 
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Eiron

Jan 1, 1970
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A very large number of countries run their mains supplies at 220-240V, not
just the UK! Electrical standards were not designed for the benefit of
audiophools, but in practice there's nothing wrong with the 230V standard in
this regard.

Can I just mention another example of European Union lunacy?
Voltage is standardized at 230v +- a fudge factor so that the UK
can keep to 240v and the rest of Europe can keep 220v with no plans
for any country to adopt 230v. Now that is dumb!

And the UK plugs are rather large. That would be a valid criticism.
It spoils the lines of a laptop bag....
 
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