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Re: Amperage pull of a computer?

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DarkMatter

Jan 1, 1970
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Make up your mind.....001 or .1 ohms....ten amps is another guess...and the
cost?...never addressed that did you?
The only mentally challenged one here is yourself.....IQ?.....off the low
end of the scale....
It's NOT a guess, you retarded TWIT!

A wall outlet is 15 amps max. A power strip is ten amps, MAX!

Place the resistor in the power strip. The power strip has a
circuit breaker installed in it, set to guess what, dipshit???

T E N A M P S !!!

Got clue?
 
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Ross Mac

Jan 1, 1970
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DarkMatter said:
How many of you do you think there are? Short of your other
personalities, I'd say your crew amounts to a population of ONE.

Got math clues?


You can post till you have arthritis....you are still wrong...wrong and
exceptionally wrong...
WrongMatter posts...."Got Math Clues"....you have proven YOU can't add.....
 
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Ross Mac

Jan 1, 1970
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DarkMatter said:
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You're a goddamned retard to think that the resistor used is ever
going to drop enough to use that much power.

Yes.. you are a retard, indeed. This thread took your IQ down 40
points.

Another grasp at reality......You want to give advice to newbies and tell
them they can plug all kind of devices into a power strip without rating
them....BANG! goes BlastMatters design...it just flew off the bench...along
with most of your designs loser!
Just keep squirming weasel....I will be here in the end to kick your Roach
Ass in the corner...CaaaRunnnch!
 
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Ross Mac

Jan 1, 1970
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DarkMatter said:
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You're a goddamned retard to think that the resistor used is ever
going to drop enough to use that much power.

Yes.. you are a retard, indeed. This thread took your IQ down 40
points.

How much power would that be Dimbulb...another guess?
10 watts, 20 watts....make a guess....that's your style of
engineering....guesingeerning....Do they really pay you for that?
 
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Ross Mac

Jan 1, 1970
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DarkMatter said:
I can't believe that you post this total lie right after he just
proved that your "cheap meter" is just that.

It is an un-useable POS for the job.

Nice try....he was wrong whether he admits it or not...He picked a high end
clamp and a low end DMM...then claimed victory...right....read my reply...he
was wrong....
You on the other hand are just jumping on top thinking you have and ally
with ehjrs.....You are both wrong....
The OP needed an approximation and both of you have claimed he needs an
exact measurement.....
Neither of you have addressed the fact that after reading the post, he would
not be able to do the procedure you recommended and the price of it would be
more than hiring an electrician......Maybe you should buy one of those DMM's
ehjrs suggests for $2.99...I bet it's a jewel!
 
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Ross Mac

Jan 1, 1970
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DarkMatter said:
You just don't get it, boy. When measuring current, the meter leads
make a difference. When measuring voltage, they do not. So to
measure voltage across a resistor is very accurate. The voltage on
said resistor will be a very accurate calculation for the current
flowing through it. Basic ohm's law.

No you don't get it...no meter leads...amp clamp...what an absolute fool you
are making of yourself!

You keep bitching about safety, then, you keep removing the fault
return in the guy's circuit.

You couldn't be more retarded about electrical power.
Safety?.....you mean that 20 or more watt resistor you want to hang in
series with a power cord?
What do you thnk UL would have to say about your wonderful design?
I NEVER said ANYTHING about "a device to mount it" That is ALL part
of YOUR fanatical fantasy remix of what is required. YOU are a
goddamned IDIOT that is NOT worth my time.
Once again, rhetoric and no facts.....blow off your steam BlowMatter....
I'll bet he already has one.

The key word is "BET"....it goes well with your other favorite word
"Guess"....Neither word is acceptable in engineering..
Assumptions will be the death of you!
 
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Ross Mac

Jan 1, 1970
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DarkMatter said:
They are called shunt resistors, dipshit.

Got clue?

Yeah buthead, Got Clue!....resistor/shunt resistor....they have been in
ammeters before you got your first wood....
Only a Troll would argue that one.....
 
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DarkMatter

Jan 1, 1970
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Another grasp at reality......You want to give advice to newbies and tell
them they can plug all kind of devices into a power strip without rating
them....BANG! goes BlastMatters design...it just flew off the bench...along
with most of your designs loser!
Just keep squirming weasel....I will be here in the end to kick your Roach
Ass in the corner...CaaaRunnnch!

I now realize that I have been arguing with an adolescent twit.

Despite whatever adult numbered age you have reached, your mind is
that of an 11 year old, boy.

Yes... I see now that it is you that is the loser. No further
proof required. I have a history of your bullshit from day one.

It is you that is a laugh. Hell, you can't even read. There are
about 100 citations to that affect! 20 or 30 from this thread alone!
 
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Ross Mac

Jan 1, 1970
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DarkMatter said:
Hey, retard boy. That is why I won't be using 0.1 ohm. If you had
ANY clue at all about shunt resistors, you'd know how to do this
SIMPLE, BASIC calculation.
Snip out of context the blow up your scrawny chest...You originally posted
..1 ohm...now you say you think that is wrong...first you said there was a
47% error...WRONG now you want to change the resistance! And you are telling
me I am wrong...you are hillarious....
your claim to "directly install" is ludicrous.

You're a goddamned retard, boy.


Nobody will be dissipating 40 watts here, you retarded ****!
So how many amps do you guess...GuessMatter...will they be dissipating??
After all you never did ask any questions of the OP....

I work around 100kV supplies. I think I got the safety thing down,
and I'll bet your investment value that you do NOT have any HV
knowledge or experience, and that you'd get your lame ass fried on day
one.

How did HV become the subject?.....IdiotMatter is pulling Troll#65
I know more about electrical safety than your lard ass ever will.

You should practice it then....from your recommendations...it ain't there!

The OP didn't know what he wanted. That was explained to you, but
you were too goddamned retarded to get THAT too!
So, make a point here....what was explained....Nothing...just more
BlatherMatter
Reading a shunt resistor is one of the easiest things to do in
electronics. It's right up there with reading a voltage or a
resistance value.

As usual....a non-comment...did you do testing or not?
The only thing that you have proven is that you are a piece of shit.
100%
Wrong again.....You have been proven the Village Idiot!
Therefore you are retarded as I ever said you are.
You have yet to do a single fucking thing to redeem yourself from that
fact as well.

The broken record posts again......Say what you will, you are still
incorrect!
 
Ross said:
I snipped your reply so to save the NG's wheel mice since it was fairly
long....

You recommend a fluke 110 which is a bottom line fluke meter but would
probably suffice. I cannot find it for under a $109, though that is what I
found in a few moments of Googling. I have, on my bench, a true RMS Fluke 32
that I paid $69. My Google searches show it at $79 now at rapid electronics
and it is true RMS. You are correct on the fact that a true RMS may be
necesary to measure PC's. Since I have never owned anything else, I am not
sure what the error or difference would be.when measuring computer current.
I would never purchase a $3 meter for anything accept simple tasks such as
automotive etc... I would venture to guess that putting decent leads on it
would be more than the cost of the meter. This is one of those discussions
where the focus changes from the OP and centers on the example. By the
questions asked it appeared to me that the OP would not get through the
resistor/shunt method and the clamping method would be the best and the
safest. I want you to know, I was not trying to be rude or argumentative but
just had some questions. Some of which you never answered. When you jumped
in, you were siding with DarkMatter, who has a big flame going with me
currently. So, just by your comments, you somewhat became involved. You
*must* know that! Stick accross the monkeys cage?.....Ok maybe not...
One other comment. The clamp you chose was high end and the meter you chose
was not...both would have certainly worked but as far as the comparison
goes....It was only supportive of your claim and not realistic as I see it
(for what that is worth, and you may think that is zilch...and that would be
fine too)
I think I substantiated my claim here that good DMM's are more expensive
that good amp clamps......Ross : >)


On the $3.00 meters - they are certainly not something
you want to rely on for precision or long life. That
said, they might surprise the hell out of you! I bought
4 of them to use when I was designing a little DC-DC
converter where I had to track DC input volts and current,
and the dual DC output volts and current. I needed 6 meters
simultaneously, with the scope monitoring the input and
output wave forms and I varied the input voltage and
the output loads. The precise output voltage and current
was unimportant, I just needed to know when an output
fell out of regulation, so a change on the meter was the
indicator. Once I established the relative points, I could
move the Fluke to get accurate readings. Surprisingly, as
it turned out, they were accurate enough.

On the Fluke meters - I picked the cheapest true-RMS
DMM and the cheapest true-RMS clamp on that I could
find in the Fluke line - I was not slanting the
selection - I couldn't find a lower priced clamp
on in the Fluke line. The Fluke 32 has been
discontinued and replaced by the one I specified -
the 335. See:
http://www.tequipment.net/FlukePriceList.html

The model 32 you quoted at Rapid Electronics
http://www.rapidelectronics.co.uk/limited/85-0102.htm

is 79.00 GBP - pounds, British currency.
It translates to 145 US dollars, so it still costs
36 dollars more than the DMM, and that does not
include shipping from the UK.

I thought I answered all of your questions, but
if I missed some let me know what they were and
I'll try to answer.

I'm aware of the flaming - I wish there was none.
Some people enjoy it - I don't. I don't want to
take sides or contribute to any flaming.

If you want to discuss the flaming aspect further,
I'm willing to do that by E mail. In fact, I would
have initiated E to you about that if your E mail
was valid.

Finally, I apologize for misunderstanding the
points that seemed argumentative to me, and I'm
glad to hear they were not intended as such
 
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DarkMatter

Jan 1, 1970
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Oh, move the goal-posts! What a maroon!

And 10mV. Are you sure you're this stupid?

I am sure that you are!

Are you so stupid as to think that current shunts are not functional
or do not provide accurate readings? You couldn't be more lost.
 
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Ross Mac

Jan 1, 1970
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DarkMatter said:
Hey, retard boy. That is why I won't be using 0.1 ohm. If you had
ANY clue at all about shunt resistors, you'd know how to do this
SIMPLE, BASIC calculation.

Look up the thread...... .1 ohm was what wass uggested by YOU not me

You're a goddamned retard, boy.
Not a technical response.....just more BlatherMatter Trolling...

Nobody will be dissipating 40 watts here, you retarded ****!

More extrapolating by GuessMatter
I work around 100kV supplies. I think I got the safety thing down,
and I'll bet your investment value that you do NOT have any HV
knowledge or experience, and that you'd get your lame ass fried on day
one.
If you ever intend to get a UL rating, you best change your suggestions
I know more about electrical safety than your lard ass ever will.


The OP didn't know what he wanted. That was explained to you, but
you were too goddamned retarded to get THAT too!

Explained by who.....TwistedMatter?
Reading a shunt resistor is one of the easiest things to do in
electronics. It's right up there with reading a voltage or a
resistance value.

I'm not impressed...
The only thing that you have proven is that you are a piece of shit.
100%

Wrong again....you have proven yourself the Village Idiot
Therefore you are retarded as I ever said you are.
You have yet to do a single fucking thing to redeem yourself from that
fact as well.

When will you ever post some real content?......Retard ... etc...is your
fallback whenever you are backed into a corner...
Since you are in a corner.....CaaaarRuuuunch!....Your cockroach existence is
eliminated!
 
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DarkMatter

Jan 1, 1970
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How much power would that be Dimbulb...another guess?

No guess, retard boy. Oh, and you can't read or stop lying piece of
shit... I never guessed to begin with. That is the department of
retards like you.
10 watts, 20 watts....make a guess....

No... I'll make a calculation, like good designers do.
that's your style of
engineering....guesingeerning....

No. That is your style of lying, you retarded bastard, and you are
lucky that you aren't here, or I'd take your lying ass to task pronto!
You can count on it. That is.... if you can count.
Do they really pay you for that?
They would pay to see what I would do to you. They also pay me to
do electrical engineering design work. Something you obviously have
no grasp of.
 
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DarkMatter

Jan 1, 1970
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Well, since most don't listen to your stupid ass, likely only a
few hundred.

Sorry, but the Rosstard is only an army of one.
You've been proven to be a dumbass, so why should
most read any thread you're in?

You're a goddamned retard, keithtard! The question was how many
personalities or members in the group "us" he stated does he think
there are.

Are your reading skills really as bad as the RossTard's are?

Wow... you really are more retarded than I thought.
 
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DarkMatter

Jan 1, 1970
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Wrong. YOu're well known to be a useless dumbass. We're simply
having fun at your useless mommy's expense.

Except that you are not man enough to face what I would do to you if
you were here right now. Want to meet, tard boy? You wussy pussy
fucktard!
 
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DarkMatter

Jan 1, 1970
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Nice try....he was wrong whether he admits it or not...He picked a high end
clamp and a low end DMM...then claimed victory...right....read my reply...he
was wrong....

You are wrong, fucktard! His low end DMM gets the right reading,
while your low end clamp will NOT. Do you even know how to read AT
ALL????
You on the other hand are just jumping on top thinking you have and ally
with ehjrs.....You are both wrong....

No. I am not. He chimed in with a FACT. That is all. The FACT
still remains too.
The OP needed an approximation and both of you have claimed he needs an
exact measurement.....

Nope. He did, by his own wording.
Neither of you have addressed the fact that after reading the post, he would
not be able to do the procedure you recommended and the price of it would be
more than hiring an electrician.....

Nope. Electricians charge more than $100 before they even cross
through the doorway. You must not get out much, tard boy.
.Maybe you should buy one of those DMM's
ehjrs suggests for $2.99...I bet it's a jewel!

Compared to an unimpressive amp clamp, I'll bet it will measure
circles around it.

You don't even know what the word accuracy means, much less how to
get there from anywhere.
 
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DarkMatter

Jan 1, 1970
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Safety?.....you mean that 20 or more watt resistor you want to hang in
series with a power cord?

Again, retard boy... THAT is what YOU said would be done. Not me,
dipshit!
What do you thnk UL would have to say about your wonderful design?

Again, retard boy.. UL has not a goddamned thing to do with it.
 
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DarkMatter

Jan 1, 1970
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Yeah buthead, Got Clue!....resistor/shunt resistor....they have been in
ammeters before you got your first wood....
Only a Troll would argue that one.....

How many times do you have to be told that ammeters have error and
change the circuit under test before it soaks in? GET A C L U E !!!
 
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Ross Mac

Jan 1, 1970
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Keith R. Williams said:
Keep waffling! You're still at 40W at .1ohm! You're going to
read 20mv at .001 ohm. Silly wabbit! Pick your poison! ...even
an "E1 grade" technician knows better.

Dimbulb suddenly switched to .001 ohms.....but never factored in the cost of
a 4.5 digit multimeter.....
BevisMatter needs to learn how to work on a budget!....
 
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DarkMatter

Jan 1, 1970
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Nice change of goalposts. IIRC you started with *ONE* ohm.
No, dipshit... I didn't. Fact is, HOWEVER, that you and the
RossTard do NOT dictate what gets used, you only get the how part
incredibly wrong!

I started by describing a 0.1 ohm resistor as an example of a shunt
resistor.

I can use whatever I wish. You can eat shit and die... soon!
 
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