Re: Amperage pull of a computer?

[DarkMatter]

Can you spell Safety....you never answer or offer a suggestion....You just
blather the words retarded....
Pre-AdolescentMatter....You have earned your moniker!

I offered the full method several posts back. The mere fact that
you do not even read what is in a thread,, yet blather bullshit as if
you are an expert is fascinating. You'd make a good study for someone
on how supposedly intelligent animal classes can still be 100%
retarded.

Start over. Read the thread again, dipshit. Get a clue.

 

[DarkMatter]

No resistor is even cheaper Einstein !


Never to the point with you...no answer again!!!
What DMM do you recommend for your inexpensive solution???
NO answer will ever be expected...I will save you the time .....DM says
"your are retarded"

Higher end amp clamps are still cheaper than high end DMM's.....
Pick a decent brand and prove me wrong.....You can't, you won't
because you just blather and try to weasel out of ever confronting the
facts.

Wrong again idiot....and YOUR suggestion???? NO content, just blather...


Wrong.......I gave facts, you offered rhetoric.....rhetoric = blather....



You have gotten beyond hillarious........This proves beyond a doubt your
absence of any clue whatsoever.

Funny how you make you decisions based on zero knowledge.

I suppose the electrician keeps resistors in his tool
belt......ROTFLMAO.....

The T is silent... not used in the acronym, dipshit. It is ROFL.

It was NEVER ROTFL, so you have again hitched yer wagon to a turd.
It figures though.

I just can't stop laughing here.....LOL,LOL,LOL.....Electricians using
resistors to approximate current....LOL...

No. They use them to get exact measurements, not approximations.
It is a practice that is over 100 years old. Where have you been?

Yeah, they open the line, patch in a resistor then reach for their
DMM.....LOL.....

Have you ever even seen a power supply lab? Have you ever seen ANY
electronics lab?

Our load banks have such resistors in place as it allows for easy
current measurement that is precise.

There is no substitute for conveniences, and it HAS been practiced
for well over a hundred years. Got clue?

 

[DarkMatter]

And you have not progressed a minutia since then!

You wouldn't know. Your E-1 grade unqualified assessments prove
that fact.

An eight year old doing electrical repairs ???

What were you doing? Playing doctor with yourself, or daddy?

ROTFLMAO......Go ahead...say more....

You're an IDIOT.

It just gets more and more
ridiculous....Of course, that is the suggested Troll method, isn't it???

You tell us, dipshit troll boy.

 

[DarkMatter]

I would say the word directly installed is quite vague...

Nope. For the educated, electrically inclined among us, it is quite
succinct.

ou suggest, by
using that terminology, there would be no expense or effort to "install it"
??

There isn't.

Nice try......Your Troll vagueness and ridiuculous statements coupled with
your absolute ignorance have earned you your position in the NG's....

Because I submit a solution, I am a troll? Real good try there,
trollhopper. When you can snatch the truth from my hand, you'll be
ready to leave.

njoy
your stature, for you have earned!

You will obviously never be ready to leave. Hahahahaha....

 

[Ross Mac]

You're a goddamned retard, boy. It has been explained to you
several times.

A ten watt resistor can handle 20 amps in this scenario.

Wrong again.....P=I^2*R....Therefore...400*.1 = 40 watts you fool......Try
again

A ten amp power strip can handle any number of AC powered devices up
to the ten amp limit.

Are you starting to get a clue yet?

Yeah, I got a clue that you can't do simple arithmetic....Your keeping us
all laughing PitifulMatter!

 

[DarkMatter]

You just keep spewing the same blather. The only time you change it is when
you plagiarize....

You don't even know what the word means, asswipe! When exactly did
I plagiarize anyone?

You are damned lucky I don't know where you are, because taking you
to court is not on my list of responses to your baby bullshit.

You have never come up with the vaguest design, nor have
you quoted a price for a DMM or a Clamp, nor have you addressed the safety
issues in your $5 resistor design.....

You're a goddamned idiot. It goes on the neutral side. Got clue?

You're lamp cord is less safe than that.

The only thing you have actually come
up with that was not vague was your drug use......Bong on Doper Boy!

You like grasping at straws, eh?

Come on hot shot....REALLY prove your point that an Amp Clamp is more
expensive than a DMM in the same class.....

That was not the argument.

Prove that you don't need
something to mount a 10 or 20 watt resistor.

You don't if it only dissipates 1/4 of its rating. DOH!

Prove you can do it all safely!

You are an absolute idiot.

That will never happen....you will just answer with the usual tyrade and 8
year old vocabulary......

Actually, I give the facts each time. You are too fucking retarded
to actually read.

 

[Ross Mac]

A resistor costs a few dollars at this level.

Just snip out what you want SnippetBoyTrollMatter !
You never have addressed the cost of the meter now have you? You think the
OP has an accurate DMM to he can save his 1or 2% reading.....You have made
an absolute idiot out of yourself once again. Just pitful !

 

[DarkMatter]

Now the resistor is .001 ohms ? What happened to your .1 ohm
selection.....

They are called shunts, retard boy. They come in various and sundry
values.

For you NOT to be familiar with shunts proves that you were just
present in the industry and actually knew little or nothing about it.

TwistedMatter trys to wiggle out again. Now that you have
chosen a resistor that small, do you now suggest the OP measure it with the
DMM he has to buy? It won't be cheap using that resistor.
What?

Speaking of not having a clue.....Buy a $20 amp clamp a lamp cord and
separate the wires....

Which wire? The two wire lamp cord defeats ALL the safety measures
taken by the product makers. You want to talk safety? Get a clue,
boy.

I think we would be hard pressed to spend $25. You
will have spent that much before you ever shop for the DMM. And what
accuracy are you going to purchase? 1% ???? And what is the accuracy of the
cheap amp clamp??? All that expense and it buys you very little and still
the OP needs an approximation....Talk about not having a clue....You have
won that prize CluelessMatter!

You wouldn't know. You never read a post, you merely rant in your
baby bullshit over and over and over...

 

[DarkMatter]

news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, [email protected]
says...

Oh, my Ross. I didn't think a .001 ohm 1% resistor was $5.
Perhaps I've been doing processor development too long, but these
specs look rather tight/costly to me. How big are the leads on a
.001 ohm resistor anyway? 26GA? ;-)

Except for that FACT that they do NOT have four foot leads.

THAT is the entire point, you clueless buttbuddytards.

 

[Ross Mac]

I a situation where the entire premise is to remove the test leads
from the circuit, your retarded ass proposes putting them back in in
the form of a "project box" How retarded. The entire premise of
placing the resistor in line is that it introduces no error. You
know... that ohm's law thing.

You couldn't be more clueless.

DarkMatter says " I a situation where the entire premise " ....Nice Bud
Dickman....really nice!
How about the meter idiot....The OP, once again for the mentally challenged,
wanted an approximation...
So one more time FOOL....a cheap amp clamp and a lamp cord...
Your suggestion of a resistor, a device to mount it and a DMM are far more
expensive and won't buy the OP single thing.
Talk about clueless....you have proven that repeatedly....you just refuse to
admit, the cost of the meter. You are being the consumate
AnalRetentiveMatter.........

 

[DarkMatter]

And I suppose the meter is 10 bucks too....If he doesn't have 4.5 digit
accuracy, he will be up s*&t creek....

You couldn't be more wrong.

 

[DarkMatter]

And I suppose the meter is 10 bucks too....If he doesn't have 4.5 digit
accuracy, he will be up s*&t creek....
Did you notice that suddenly he went from .1 ohm to .001 ohm ?....he didn't
want to explain where he would mount a 20 watt .01 ohm resistor....I think
the quote was " directly installed".....Can you see this cluge?....A power
cord with a 20 watt .1 ohm resistor, electrical tape (which I NEVER use)
dangling from a power strip. About 15 minutes into the test the resistor
melts the cord, shorts the hot to neutral and "bang"....the breaker
trips...Great advice to give to an amateur (OP).....He should have a
disclaimer to go along with his advice!.......Dimbulb has truly lived up to
his moniker!.....Ross

You are retarded. One chooses a resistor such that it will NOT get
hot, dipshit. You don't pick one that IS going to get hot!


Got clue?

 

[Ross Mac]

I offered the full method several posts back. The mere fact that
you do not even read what is in a thread,, yet blather bullshit as if
you are an expert is fascinating. You'd make a good study for someone
on how supposedly intelligent animal classes can still be 100%
retarded.

Start over. Read the thread again, dipshit. Get a clue.

Try again....You never addressed the price of the DMM....never....and I like
that switch from .1 ohm to .001 ohm....And, you never addressed how you
intend to mount your resistor. At the .1 ohms you originally chose, 20 amps
buys you 40 watts....your claim to "directly install" is ludicrous. You
better mount it in something safe, 40 watts gets pretty warm....of course
safety never crossed your pitiful mind.....now did it?
Cost never crossed your pitiful mind ...now did it? The OP's "approximate
value" requirement never crossed your pitiful mind...now did it? Ease of
testing never crossed your pitiful mind...now did it?
Therefore, like in any proof, You are PitifulMatter !

 

[Ross Mac]

Or use the split extension cord idea and solder
the resistor in the neutral side (I wouldn't), or
install it in a $2.99 power strip or put it
in a J-box with a receptacle, or the project box as
you said. Added work, added expense, and not
negligible as compared to the price of the meter
you mention below.


Ebay! Thanks - I learned something. I did not know
you could get even a piece of crap clamp meter like
that for ~ $23.00 (Shipping is $9.99) I may buy one
to find out just how bad it is.

Speaking of crappy meters, Harbor Freight periodically
sells a cheap DMM (non true-RMS) for $2.99, including
the 9V battery. Stated AC accuracy is 1.2% of reading
on the 200 V AC scale. It is on sale now - item
#30756-4VGA. Shipping is $2.95.


See above - you can get a DMM that is probably equivalent
accuracy/quality for about one fourth the price.


Yes, I think you did. You're not thinking of true-RMS
meters, and are willing to settle for that innaccuracy
as being a close enough approximation.


Well, that's not relevant. Electricians don't care what
a single PC uses - they just wire a standard 15 or
20 amp branch circuit. But if an electrician was
looking for a valid approximation where switching power
supplies (such as those in PC's) were on the circuit,
and if he knew what he was doing, he'd use a true-rms
clamp on meter.

We've been discussing this, and I assumed that you were
talking true-RMS. My mistake.

This was not a post about a single PC or how to wire a branch circuit....
Do you think your $2.99 dmm is any more accurate than the cheap amp clamp...
Show me a line of good DMM's and Amp Clamps where the clamps are more
expensive than the DMM...maybe I will learn something "in your own words"
Also, where are you going to mount your 20 watt resistor??? Just dangle in
on a lamp cord???
Did you read the OP???
You think you and DarkMatter are giving good advice to someone who would
even have to ask that question?

 

[Ross Mac]

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Funny how you make you decisions based on zero knowledge.


The T is silent... not used in the acronym, dipshit. It is ROFL.

It was NEVER ROTFL, so you have again hitched yer wagon to a turd.
It figures though.

No. They use them to get exact measurements, not approximations.
It is a practice that is over 100 years old. Where have you been?

Have you ever even seen a power supply lab? Have you ever seen ANY
electronics lab?

Our load banks have such resistors in place as it allows for easy
current measurement that is precise.

There is no substitute for conveniences, and it HAS been practiced
for well over a hundred years. Got clue?

Fool...absosute fool....I'm not repeating myself again....You will never get
it.....001ohm resistor...what a fool!

 

[Ross Mac]

Nope. For the educated, electrically inclined among us, it is quite
succinct.


There isn't.


Because I submit a solution, I am a troll? Real good try there,
trollhopper. When you can snatch the truth from my hand, you'll be
ready to leave.


You will obviously never be ready to leave. Hahahahaha....

Try again BlaterMatter...that will NOT get you off the hook! Weasel all you
want.....

 

[Ross Mac]

You couldn't be more wrong.

With a .001 ohm resistor you will need accuracy out to 4 places....and when
are you going to recommend a cheap meter to measure that? If you don't have
4 place accuracy you will be out as much as 500ma or so on on a 5 amp
measurement. Uhhh....that is an inaccuracy of 10%...now doesn't that take
you way out of the realm of the purpose of your resistor in the first place.
You keep saying everyone is clueless.....look in the mirror nimrod!!!

 

[Ross Mac]

You are retarded. One chooses a resistor such that it will NOT get
hot, dipshit. You don't pick one that IS going to get hot!


Got clue?

I hate to break it to you but you didn't choose the correct wattage, the .1
ohm 20 watt resistor will get hot at any current 15 amps or larger...in fact
it will fry because it should be 40 watts oh foolish one.

 

[Ross Mac]

Except for that FACT that they do NOT have four foot leads.

THAT is the entire point, you clueless buttbuddytards.

Well what is it..... .1ohms or .001 ohms......10amps or 20 amps.....power
strip or no power strip.....
Idiot, Fool, Moron or all of the above???

 

[Ross Mac]

They are called shunts, retard boy. They come in various and sundry
values.

For you NOT to be familiar with shunts proves that you were just
present in the industry and actually knew little or nothing about it.


What?

Thats the best reply you can come up with?.....Explain the meter model you
would use, don't just sit there like an idiot and say "WHAT" !!!.....Typical
lack of content!

Which wire? The two wire lamp cord defeats ALL the safety measures
taken by the product makers. You want to talk safety? Get a clue,
boy.

Wrong again....3 wire extension cord.....Just pull apart one of the wires,
ground excluded...

You wouldn't know. You never read a post, you merely rant in your
baby bullshit over and over and over...

RantMatter projects his actions upon us....Troll #42