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Re: Amperage pull of a computer?

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DarkMatter

Jan 1, 1970
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I meant to also mention, he was not JUST measuring his PC, so a guess at 10
amps might not be a good one and if he had the current listed on the
devices, he would not need to measure it in the first place...
That is why one uses a power strip. That way, one can plug any one
or more devices into it at one time. DOH!
 
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DarkMatter

Jan 1, 1970
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Take an extension cord (lamp cord style), separate one of the power leads
and amp clamp it....No safety issue, no big expense and most likely a pretty
good approximation.

Look dumbfuck... they are NOT cheap.
How do you figure? You are going to buy a resistor with
a "guessed" wattage, then have to build some sort of box with a cord and
outlet.

Only YOU guess at electronics. The rest of us TRAINED folk now how
to implement what we were taught, because we actually retained it.

YOU couldn't solve your way out of the burning paper bag you were in
when someone threw you against the KeithTard's door and ran!
Bwuahahahaha...
You make it sound like "all" you need is a resistor.

Sorry, CHUMP, but that is all one needs, and VIOLA, MONDO ACCURACY!
Does your
resistor just plug into the wall?...

HAve you even read ONE SINGLE POST in this thread? Did you even
visit the site I posted a link to about shunts, and meter error?

GROW THE **** UP!
You still need additional hardware.

No you do NOT. All that is needed is the meter.
And
how do you figure the OP can handle all this since he asked a very simple
question to begin with?

The point is that his question contradicts itself. The answers
given do not. One cannot ask for numbers, and then say "All I wanted
was a guess". Are you having a hard time grasping that concept?
Apparently so.
A 2% error, if that's what you got, certainly would
not be an issue by reading the OP.

The resistor provides results with zero error.
Are you even sure he can perform the
simple arithmetic to figure the current based on voltage measurement across
the resistor? Based on the OP, I would say no......

Are we talking about you here? Hahahahah Oh... Sorry... you had me
fooled for a few MILLISECONDS! HAHahahahahah!!!
 
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Ross Mac

Jan 1, 1970
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DarkMatter said:
That is why one uses a power strip. That way, one can plug any one
or more devices into it at one time. DOH!

Then you would exceed the 10 amp guess for sure...
What the heck are you thinking? or shall I say smoking?
 
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Ross Mac

Jan 1, 1970
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DarkMatter said:
When you read the voltage across the resistor, and convert, you get
the exact current flowing in the entire circuit.

Back to school for you!

At this point you already "guessed" at the wattage. ..
Read the post fool....
Oh, I get it...more BongerBoy troll play.....
 
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Ross Mac

Jan 1, 1970
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DarkMatter said:
They are not cheap. Opening the line up to expose a single line is
still required as well. I have already told you this once.


People have been measuring current this way for well over a hundred
years. You are the wild goose, and your brain is what you are
chasing.


A simple meter. Doh!


A power strip with a line cord attached (they all have them -DOH-)

Open the line cord! D O H !!! A real toughy!


They are not cheap. DOH!


Grow up and admit you are clueless if you are so inclined.

Now let me get this straight....you are going to leave the price of the
meter out of the cost equation?......
You claim stand alone amp clamps aren't cheap but you think a DMM is???
And your power strip .... you can now add that to the price of this
measurement...
Lamp cord extension with one wire pulled out plus amp clamp...still cheaper
BlatherBoy...
and guess what.....still a pretty good approximation. Isn't that really what
the OP was all about?
 
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Ross Mac

Jan 1, 1970
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DarkMatter said:
Look dumbfuck... they are NOT cheap.
And a DMM is....Wrong again...
Only YOU guess at electronics. The rest of us TRAINED folk now how
to implement what we were taught, because we actually retained it.
Trained??? If you have a device that you have no idea what the current usage
is and you pick a wattage of resistor, isn't that a guess....P=?E ???
YOU couldn't solve your way out of the burning paper bag you were in
when someone threw you against the KeithTard's door and ran!
Bwuahahahaha...
That would be you....no doubt here!
Sorry, CHUMP, but that is all one needs, and VIOLA, MONDO ACCURACY!

And you don't need a cable, a box and a meter???
HAve you even read ONE SINGLE POST in this thread? Did you even
visit the site I posted a link to about shunts, and meter error?

I have to ask you the same thing Troll boy....Do you plug the resistor in
the wall, or do you just dangle it from a cord with some black tape?...As
far as reading skills....you have proven You don't read the posts...though
you tell Everyone they don't!
GROW THE **** UP!


No you do NOT. All that is needed is the meter.
Ah, now you JUST need a meter.....I thought you JUST needed a resistor and
an amp clamp is more expensive....Put down the bong and try again!
The point is that his question contradicts itself. The answers
given do not. One cannot ask for numbers, and then say "All I wanted
was a guess". Are you having a hard time grasping that concept?
Apparently so.


The resistor provides results with zero error.

And added expense....He just needed an approximation...I thought you said
you read the OP???
Are we talking about you here? Hahahahah Oh... Sorry... you had me
fooled for a few MILLISECONDS! HAHahahahahah!!!

The word FOOL next the handle DarkMatter fits rather well !
 
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DarkMatter

Jan 1, 1970
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Then you would exceed the 10 amp guess for sure...
What the heck are you thinking? or shall I say smoking?

You are lost in your little world of confusion.
 
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DarkMatter

Jan 1, 1970
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Now let me get this straight....you are going to leave the price of the
meter out of the cost equation?......

Even a cheap voltmeter, and a shunt resistor will provide more
accurate results than an expensive DMM with a current mode.

The method is the reason for the accuracy.
You claim stand alone amp clamps aren't cheap but you think a DMM is???
And your power strip .... you can now add that to the price of this
measurement...

He has his shit plugged into one, I'm sure. Get a clue, dipshit.
Lamp cord extension with one wire pulled out plus amp clamp...still cheaper
BlatherBoy...

Lamp cords are typically two wire affairs. Are you now going to
endanger everyone's safety as well? GET A CLUE!
and guess what.....still a pretty good approximation. Isn't that really what
the OP was all about?

You are lost as to what the op wanted. You are basically just lost.
When that gets pointed out to you, you go off on your 50 post baby
bullshit rants about your boots.
 
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DarkMatter

Jan 1, 1970
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Trained??? If you have a device that you have no idea what the current usage
is and you pick a wattage of resistor, isn't that a guess....P=?E ???

Well, retard boy... since it is going into standard American
consumer outlets, I'd say its a safe bet to use a resistor that can
handle that standard maximum and anything less!

Could you be any more retarded?
 
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DarkMatter

Jan 1, 1970
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I have to ask you the same thing Troll boy....Do you plug the resistor in
the wall, or do you just dangle it from a cord with some black tape?...As
far as reading skills....you have proven You don't read the posts...though
you tell Everyone they don't!

Let's just say that your bullshit got ignored as incorrect, so if it
was your bullshit, I likely ignored it.

Do you not have ANY clue as to how to open a line cord and install a
shunt device? It is a century old practice, you buffoon!

It has also ALREADY been outlined in this thread.

READ THE THREAD, dipshit.
 
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Ross Mac

Jan 1, 1970
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DarkMatter said:
You are lost in your little world of confusion.

Uhhh....power strip....several outlets....computer in one and other devices
in the other outlets.....Talk about confused.....Every electrician I have
ever known, does not use a precision resistor to measure industrial or
household current......Amp Clamp idiot...Remember the OP...though you are
probably already lost in your drug induced fog.... The word
Approximate!!!......Not exact like you and ehsjr are recommending......Buy a
clue if you can afford it DimBulb......
 
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Ross Mac

Jan 1, 1970
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DarkMatter said:
Well, retard boy... since it is going into standard American
consumer outlets, I'd say its a safe bet to use a resistor that can
handle that standard maximum and anything less!

Could you be any more retarded?

OK....just take a guess......and while you are at it...answer the other
questions you snipped out of my post!
Won't happen because SnippetMatter thinks he can Troll his way out of this
mess....Good luck dope smoking loser!
 
Ross Mac wrote:

Take an extension cord (lamp cord style), separate one of the power leads
and amp clamp it....No safety issue, no big expense and most likely a pretty
good approximation.

<snip>

Please post a make/model/price for the clamp
on you have in mind. If it's cheaper than a DMM +
precision resistor that yield the same accuracy
as the clamp on you have in mind, I'll learn
something. Thanks.
 
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Ross Mac

Jan 1, 1970
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DarkMatter said:
THE RESISTOR. A METER. THAT'S ALL, DIPSHIT!!!

Now, you did say you needed a power strip too, didn't you?....One of the
symptoms of drug abuse is memory loss...You proved that point...Now, how do
you connect the resistor...plug it in the wall on one end and twist a bunch
of wires up. Or do you cut a cord and leave the 120vac exposed....Nice safe
suggestion for the OP..I am sure his attorney would like to talk to
YOU!....When you get a buck, buy a clue BongMatter!
 
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Ross Mac

Jan 1, 1970
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DarkMatter said:
Let's just say that your bullshit got ignored as incorrect, so if it
was your bullshit, I likely ignored it.
Wrong again, you chose to ignore it because you realized what an idiot you
have made of yourself!
Do you not have ANY clue as to how to open a line cord and install a
shunt device? It is a century old practice, you buffoon!

Yes, FoolMatter, I was opening up line cords before you got your first
woody.....
Like I said, that was never necesary....and you never even hinted how you
would fabricate your device....jumper leads?...
twisted wires and black tape....or a proper box with a cord and an
outlet....
All of this is a moot point because you just pull a wire apart, without ever
cutting it using a lamp cord extension and clamp it...
You also never addressed the fact that your exact way is much more expensive
than a lamp cord and an amp clamp that would deliver the necesary results to
the OP...Of course you choose to ignore the OP because you have made youself
the fool, once again! Grab that bottle of MD 20-20 and take another bong
Don'tMatter...then tell us all how retarded we are.........
It has also ALREADY been outlined in this thread.

READ THE THREAD, dipshit.

It???? Nice try Don'tMatter......YOU are not off the hook Don'tMatter how
hard you wiggle!
Flush......Flush.....Down the bowl circles the chunks of DarkMatter!
 
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Ross Mac

Jan 1, 1970
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Ross Mac wrote:



<snip>

Please post a make/model/price for the clamp
on you have in mind. If it's cheaper than a DMM +
precision resistor that yield the same accuracy
as the clamp on you have in mind, I'll learn
something. Thanks.

Firstly, you will still need to make a project box....punch it drill it
etc.....an expense you and DarkMatter have ignored. Secondly....here is a
1000 amp clamp for $12.99...buy it now on ebay...
http://business.listings.ebay.com/T...emListQQsocolumnlayoutZ3QQsocurrencydisplayZ2
And thirdly, what type of DMM do you get for that price? And in fact, if you
are looking for precision @ 4.5 digits, you will spend hundreds of dollars.
I have two that cost around $400 each. A Fluke 8062A and a Fluke 189...(I
think 189 is correct...too cold to go to garage and check). So I think I
substantiated my claim. By the way, have you ever seen an electrician that
is looking for an *approximate* current reading use a precision
resistor?.....Not likely.....So you have my 2 cents.....take care, Ross
 
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Ross Mac

Jan 1, 1970
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Ross Mac said:
Firstly, you will still need to make a project box....punch it drill it
etc.....an expense you and DarkMatter have ignored. Secondly....here is a
1000 amp clamp for $12.99...buy it now on ebay...
http://business.listings.ebay.com/T...emListQQsocolumnlayoutZ3QQsocurrencydisplayZ2
And thirdly, what type of DMM do you get for that price? And in fact, if you
are looking for precision @ 4.5 digits, you will spend hundreds of dollars.
I have two that cost around $400 each. A Fluke 8062A and a Fluke 189...(I
think 189 is correct...too cold to go to garage and check). So I think I
substantiated my claim. By the way, have you ever seen an electrician that
is looking for an *approximate* current reading use a precision
resistor?.....Not likely.....So you have my 2 cents.....take care, Ross

Here is another clamp on Ebay "buy it now" for $16.97 with a hold feature
that could be used to "approximate" the maximum computer current usage and
anything else for that matter...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2593340747&category=4678
Heck...at these prices I am tempted to buy another one myself..but I
currently have two....The expensive clamps are usually the DC models...could
it be that you had that in mind...just a guess.......Ross
 
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DarkMatter

Jan 1, 1970
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Uhhh....power strip....several outlets....computer in one and other devices
in the other outlets.....Talk about confused.....

Yes, you retard! That allows any number of devices to be tested by
merely plugging them in!

You couldn't be any more retarded.
Every electrician I have
ever known, does not use a precision resistor to measure industrial or
household current.....

That's right. They use expensive instruments that have been ruled
out by the OP as a viable solution. Got clue?
.Amp Clamp idiot...Remember the OP...

Yeah... that guy that is NOT going to spend hundreds of dollars on
an amp clamp.
though you are
probably already lost in your drug induced fog....

No. I was and still am right on the money.
The word
Approximate!!!......Not exact like you and ehsjr are recommending......Buy a
clue if you can afford it DimBulb......
You really need help for the way you act when you are proven wrong.
 
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DarkMatter

Jan 1, 1970
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OK....just take a guess......and while you are at it...answer the other
questions you snipped out of my post!
Won't happen because SnippetMatter thinks he can Troll his way out of this
mess....Good luck dope smoking loser!
It's real simple dipshit, but I'll spell it out for you.

20 amps across a 0.001 ohm resistor equates to 4 watts on the
resistor.

So a ten amp power strip will not even heat up a ten watt resistor
to the point that human contact would describe it as "hot". It would
have 2 watts in it at full current.

REAL SIMPLE. Got clue?
 
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