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tvguy

Jan 1, 1970
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I have learned more than alot of you have learned on this site. I hav
people calling me from all over the country asking me to go work fo
them because when I do something I do it right and I don`t set her
on forums telling customers to go out and fix the smp`s when the
don`t even now where the HOT is at. How can people like that do a to
quality repair on there own tv ?????

When you are setting here on the forums telling cunsumers how to fi
there own things then you are not much of a tech because all you
doing is putting these people at risk of getting a bad shock or eve
much worse and your not supporting your own shop and services. I wil
never go out on any forum and do that to amnyone that doesn`t know th
first thing about tv repairs. Wake up guys your killing your ow
business. No wonder there are shops closing everyday with poeple lik
you guys working in them
 
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Leonard Caillouet

Jan 1, 1970
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So, why are you here? Most of us come to share information and to learn.
You don't want to share information with consumers, and usenet groups
certainly will be accessed by people with all levels of skill. So why would
you post here. Are you on a crusade to keep techs who want to help people
from doing so?

You obviously miss the point and have a lot of anger and paranoia about the
repair business. While you are welcome to vent your opinion, I must point
out that you are looking pretty silly right now. There are a number of very
good techs here who do very high quality work and are not afraid to share
their experience with a few do-it-yourself types. Most of us grew up in
do-it-yourself homes. That is largely what led us down the path to
developing the skills that we have.

Get over it.

Leonard
 
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tvguy

Jan 1, 1970
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I don`t mind sharing my knowledge with another tech on a problem h
has or even to help a consumer if he does have some knowledge o
repairs but when you all set here on this forum like in this pos
when the guy stated he doen`t even know what or where the horizonta
output is and all of you are still telling him to change the caps i
the smps doesn`t make sence to me. Why tell him to do something whe
he can`t even find the buldged blue caps that was sugested to be nex
to the horizontal output. Plus if he starts messing with th
powersupply on this 169 he can come out with more problems if h
doen`t know what he is doing so my suggestion on this post of helpin
him was just have him change out the parts that are most likely to b
his problem and then if there was still a problem and was determin
to be in the powersupply then fine but I would only suggest that i
he is going to do that without any experience then just take it t
the local repairman and have it done...
 
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Ken G.

Jan 1, 1970
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When you are setting here on the forums telling cunsumers how to fix
there own things then you are not much of a tech because all your doing
is putting these people at risk of getting a bad shock or even much
worse and your not supporting your own shop and services. I will never
go out on any forum and do that to amnyone that doesn`t know the first
thing about tv repairs. Wake up guys your killing your own business. No
wonder there are shops closing everyday with people like you guys
working in them.


Its to late .. many people tinker with all sorts of electical appliances
If they at least inquire here they will learn how to better not get
shocked .
Repair shop business is not failing because average people are fixing a
few tv sets . Its failing because of the low cost of buying new and used
replacement appliances ....along with some shops high repair charges and
or the high cost of some parts these days .
 
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Leonard Caillouet

Jan 1, 1970
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It is hard to take you seriously when you make the statement

"Wake up guys your killing your own business. No wonder there are shops
closing everyday..."

in one paragraph, then say

"Repair shop business is not failing because average people are fixing a few
tv sets."

I think your second paragraph is correct. On the matter of sharing advice
with non-techs, I can't see where you suggest drawing the line. How do you
decide who is qualified to get advice? There are lots of techs out there
who know a lot less than many really smart do-it-yourselfers. If you feel
that strongly that consumers should not have access to advice on fixing
things, then we should not discuss it at all on a public forum. There are
lots of private lists and forums for techs if that is what you prefer. I
use them all the time. This debate is going on in the TechAssist list right
now. Frankly, I don't see where it does our industry any good to be closed
in terms of information. The manufacturers are doing that to us, just like
you suggest doing it to consumers. I vote for open forums and for
supporting companies like Hitachi, who are open with support.

Leonard
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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whence said:
So as for discharging dangerous caps, do I need to just short them
with a 1MW resistor? Where is the HOT located?



Where do you find a 1 Million Watt resistor in the first place? ;-)


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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tvguy

Jan 1, 1970
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I don`t care what you all say. I will stand by what I have said righ
from the begining. When you got people coming on this forum and ar
directed right to the problem and told what to look for and how t
look for it like a simple tuner or telling them where to look for
horizontal output in plain enmglish then they shouldn`t be takin
the back off of any set and trying to fix it. There are many writ
ups on the net to be able to give these people the fundamentals o
basic electronics and I would think that they should be reading tha
before they attempt to open a set up and working on it or atleast g
to work at the repairshop in there spare time to learn. As for th
169 chassis it is a bitch to work on it if you don`t understand it
Beleive me we all had a problem with those chassis untill we got t
know them and sending someone in to fix this chassis not knowing wha
to look for is just asking for trouble. As for someone saying abou
tips are all over the internet then I guess you guys don`t do muc
trouble shooting besides doing a google search hoping to come up wit
the fix or hoping that someone on one of these forums would have th
fix for you. What did you all do before there was internet with al
these resources
 
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Michael A. Terrell

Jan 1, 1970
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tvguy said:
I don`t care what you all say. I will stand by what I have said right
from the begining. When you got people coming on this forum and are
directed right to the problem and told what to look for and how to
look for it like a simple tuner or telling them where to look for a
horizontal output in plain enmglish then they shouldn`t be taking
the back off of any set and trying to fix it. There are many write
ups on the net to be able to give these people the fundamentals of
basic electronics and I would think that they should be reading that
before they attempt to open a set up and working on it or atleast go
to work at the repairshop in there spare time to learn. As for the
169 chassis it is a bitch to work on it if you don`t understand it.
Beleive me we all had a problem with those chassis untill we got to
know them and sending someone in to fix this chassis not knowing what
to look for is just asking for trouble. As for someone saying about
tips are all over the internet then I guess you guys don`t do much
trouble shooting besides doing a google search hoping to come up with
the fix or hoping that someone on one of these forums would have the
fix for you. What did you all do before there was internet with all
these resources?


I was a TV tech, starting 40 years ago. Some shops traded
information, and some didn't. We would loan each other service manuals,
loan each other parts that were not in stock at the local parts house,
and sometimes we loaned out test equipment. The ones who did this made
more money than the shops that didn't help other shops. Also, we sold a
LOT of parts over the counter for TVs, Radios, Audio equipment, and we
would special order any part someone requested, as long as we knew where
to get it, and they paid a reasonable deposit.

When shop started to die off, the ones who had your attitude were the
first to die.

I was 13 when I started working part time in a TV shop, after bugging
the owner and tech with questions for a couple years, and buying parts
from them. Yes, I was one of those DIYer's that you despise. Then I was
drafted in '72 and tested out of a three year electronics school to
become a broadcast engineer. After I got my honorable discharge, I went
back to TV repair for two more years, then started my own company to
repair school equipment, two way radios, high power guitar amps, and
industrial electronics. Later, I was an engineer at two more TV
stations, and did consulting work for a number of AM and FM radio
stations. My last job before becoming 100% disabled I worked on high
ticket Telemetry equipment in the US $20,000 to $80,000 per radio
range. I worked on NOAA's new ground station that is at Wallop's
Island, Virginia at the factory, as well as a KU band communications
system that is a permanent part of the International Space Station.
When you see the NOAA weather satellite photos, they come through
equipment that I built. I have shared knowledge with others every place
I have ever worked. The other techs would come to me when they had a
problem and the design engineers wouldn't answer them quick enough. I
had about 100 databooks on shelves by my bench, and every Datasheet for
every IC used in the $80,000 radios in the computer on one of my
benches. Most techs used half of an 8 foot bench. I had three benches,
because I did a wider variety of boards and modules than anyone else in
the plant. The goal of a good tech is to become an even better tech.
My goal was to be the best tech, any place that I worked.

You have some severe anti-social issues, and a paranoid outlook on
life. It will kill you, if you let it. As far as the DIY crowd, isn't
it better to point out the dangers before they tear something apart, or
would you rather everyone ignore them and let them die? You know that
they are going to try to fix it, either way.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
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tvguy

Jan 1, 1970
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I have been in this business for the last 30 years. I have enough wor
to keep me busy 12 hours a day or longer if I want it. I have mad
lots of money in my years of working in it and have a very goo
resume if I ever need to use it. I am getting lots of call
everyday from people including companies like RCA and Sony plus othe
places like sears and Futureshop to do there work. I have people cal
me all the time to go work for them and I refuse. I have had peopl
fly there things to me by plane. I get work from atleast 500 k
away. So don`t set there and tell me it`s people like me that don`
last in this business because you are dead wrong. I know what I a
doing and I do it very well. I have never had any complaints about m
work and never will. I have a very big tips database and I have wel
over 2000 schematics for tv and stereos up to date

All I am pointing out in this stupid post is everyone is tellin
this guy that don`t know what a Capacitor looks like and even kno
where to look for a Horizontal output to go and start changing thing
in the powersupply. If they are going to do that then when the gu
stated he don`t know where the horizontal output is is to atleas
point him in the right direction to it instead of keep on telling hi
to go to change this part or that part. That is so stupid. Atleas
help the guy find the sections and then work with him from there
It`s like telling the blind fellow it is ok to cross a busy street
 
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kip

Jan 1, 1970
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Time for you tvguy to get a grip and get a real life.


Spewed nonsense
 
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