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FMCCARTY

Jan 1, 1970
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Anyone know anything about marine radar detectors? Brands ? models?
Websites? I'm just doing some reserch for a friend.
Icky
 
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Jim Donohue

Jan 1, 1970
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FMCCARTY said:
Anyone know anything about marine radar detectors? Brands ? models?
Websites? I'm just doing some reserch for a friend.
Icky
They work. They are cheap. They may get you killed if you don't have radar
as well. The assumption that dangereous boats have operative radar is
incorrect to the point of being stupid.

Jim Donohue
 
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William G. Andersen

Jan 1, 1970
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Just curious...what's the purpose of a marine radar detector?
 
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Dennis Pogson

Jan 1, 1970
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William said:
Just curious...what's the purpose of a marine radar detector?

These devices were popular in the 70's when small boat radar was very
expensive. They told you that a radar was operating within a given range,
and had a bearing compass to enable you to "detect" the approx. bearing of
the vessel.

As the poster says, they didn't tell you that you were about to be run down
by a 300,00-ton tanker with his radar switched off.

I don't think they will ever come back and replace AIS!
 
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FMCCARTY

Jan 1, 1970
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Ok, I agree, but he ain't going to put a radar on his boat. anyone know of
some brands, models, websites? He's a stubborn old man what else can I say?
 
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FMCCARTY

Jan 1, 1970
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what is ais?
Dennis Pogson said:
These devices were popular in the 70's when small boat radar was very
expensive. They told you that a radar was operating within a given range,
and had a bearing compass to enable you to "detect" the approx. bearing of
the vessel.

As the poster says, they didn't tell you that you were about to be run down
by a 300,00-ton tanker with his radar switched off.

I don't think they will ever come back and replace AIS!
 
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Dan Mills

Jan 1, 1970
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William said:
Just curious...what's the purpose of a marine radar detector?

It tells you when to fire up the ECM suite!

;-)

Actually I have wondered about the viability of an 'available light' radar
set... It would use the transmitters on other vessels and some **serious**
correlation DSP to produce a plot without needing to transmit as long as
someone was radiating in the general area.

Regards, Dan.
 
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engsol

Jan 1, 1970
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It tells you when to fire up the ECM suite!

;-)

Actually I have wondered about the viability of an 'available light' radar
set... It would use the transmitters on other vessels and some **serious**
correlation DSP to produce a plot without needing to transmit as long as
someone was radiating in the general area.

Regards, Dan.

Dan,
I did a study for a light aircraft collision advoidance device.
It worked on transponder pulses. If your craft's speed and heading are
known, the math to resolve the "taget"'s bearing, range, speed and heading
isn't that difficult, otherwise it *is* pretty difficult.
Norm B
 
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Dan Mills

Jan 1, 1970
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engsol wrote:

Dan,
I did a study for a light aircraft collision advoidance device.
It worked on transponder pulses. If your craft's speed and heading are
known, the math to resolve the "taget"'s bearing, range, speed and
heading isn't that difficult, otherwise it *is* pretty difficult.
Norm B

But don't the transponders on aircraft tend to transmit that information
themselves?

What I was contemplating was a system that just used the other guys radar to
illuminate (and thus to allow a plot) of (possibly multiple) third
parties.... I don't think it is in general possible to come up with a
really good solution without knowing the bearing and range to the radiating
vessel, but with several ships in the area it may be possible to solve for
the radiators position using the returns from the other vessels?

Humm, thinking about it, you can plot bearing to third parties without
needing to know where the radiating vessel is, and you can plot total trip
length if you can get a good lock on the radiators prf which means that IF
you can see several ships using the scatter from any given transmitter then
you CAN in fact locate that transmitter in most cases.

Even without knowing the transmitters PRF, you can get path length
differences from each of your scatter sources which given a sufficient
number of sources (three or four I think?), could resolve the transmitters
location?

I am not sure that the processing required is a power saving over just
running a magnetron and PFN!

Still, given a decent software defined radio RX board and a couple of
downconverters from 9Ghz, it might be fun to play with.

Regards, Dan.
 
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Dennis Pogson

Jan 1, 1970
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Max said:
Why don't you try that link to learn about AIS? There's nothing there
except an invitation to spend 1900 eu!

The site was accessible prior to 03/05/2005 then went subsriber-only, sorry
about that!

Try http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/enav/ais/default.htm for an explanation of
what AIS can do.

(As usual the US Government leads the way in FREE access to all things
maritime)

Dennis.
 
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