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  1. gamer87

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    I bought two portable consoles, one of them to play and the other stored reserve,
    how do I preserve and preserve this one that is kept taking into account that it has the BP-5L battery,
    LCD LED display, internal system memory and the rest of the electronic part like board and speaker
    etc? how to properly store this type of electronic device even when i don't have silica gel, ziplock bag and vacuum?

    the device is this:
    https://pt.aliexpress.com/item/4000291489367.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.768d685dObyXpk&algo_pvid=bf6bc1f4-7cf2-48a...-75d27468bd5b-4&btsid=0ab6f83a15893971101921477e4597&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_&fbclid=IwAR2ROxVfgtP0SgPLmtinECPWyDVHXYBvAh5uRCNLBjG1-Kew__LIXVO7Ads
     
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  2. (*steve*)

    (*steve*) ¡sǝpodᴉʇuɐ ǝɥʇ ɹɐǝɥd Moderator

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    Encase it in concrete and place it in the deepest ocean trench you can find.
     
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  3. Martaine2005

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    And don't forget the silica gel..
     
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  4. Harald Kapp

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    Or, less spectacular, keep it in a dry and cool place, recharge the batteries regularly.
     
  5. gamer87

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    I have silica gel but how many days does 3 sachet of silica gel absorb moisture?

    is it possible to conserve and preserve the device without removing the BP-5L battery and without the battery swelling?
     
  6. dave9

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    3 sachets of silica gel absorbs ALL the days... forever, or until you open the sealed air-tight container. Encasing it in concrete and placing it in the deepest ocean trench, should help to deter you from opening it very often.

    Keep in mind that Li-Ion batteries have a shelf life. There is nothing you can do to long term store them without degradation, BUT if you keep them at less than full charge, in a freezer, that will help. This part, I'm not kidding about. I cannot predict if the whole console, especially the screen, would survive the freezer.
     
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  7. gamer87

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    I don't keep it in an airtight container but in a cardboard box on this battery is it possible to keep it in the device without swelling? which is recommended?
     
  8. KMoffett

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    Remove the battery when stored, or you'll wish you had. :(
     
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  9. gamer87

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    If you don't remove the battery and keep the device with it what can happen? is it not possible to conserve and preserve the device with a battery inserted in it?

    Which method absorbs moisture for the longest time in a cardboard box with the device? use sheets of A4 paper or 2 sachets of silica gel?
     
  10. KMoffett

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    Depends on the batteries. Carbon, alkaline, and NiCad batteries will leak over time and corrode the contacts and maybe even the PCBs. Not sure about the varieties of lithium batteries. Put the device in a two layers of ZipLock bags with silica gel packets. Leave the batteries out, or put it them in a separate bag.
     
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  11. (*steve*)

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    Unless you place the entire box in an airtight enclosure, no amount of desiccant will absorb moisture for long. The idea is that you seal up the device and the desiccant removes any moisture present when it was sealed. Using an unsealed enclosure means you'll be wasting your time putting desiccant in there in the first place.

    Also, batteries tend to de-gas, so sealing them up with equipment is generally a bad idea. Lipo is better in this regard (I believe) but everything has a lifetime. Keeping lipo batteries cool and part-charged will give you the longest life.

    I feel that we've been here before.
     
  12. dave9

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    It seems like you are going about this all wrong.

    How are you going to store mountains of silica gel long term? If you already have that ultra low humidity environment, just put everything in it, then you don't need the silica gel.
     
  13. gamer87

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    I have nothing hermetic or vacuum only a few sachets of silica gel to keep in these conditions what is the best thing to do?
     
  14. bertus

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    Hello,

    Put the console in a plastic bag with the silicagel.
    Close the plastic bag (after you pressed out as many air as you can) with tape.

    Bertus
     
  15. KMoffett

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    Bertus is repeating what I said in Post #10 and *Steve* said in Post #11. What more do you want gamer87?
     
  16. dave9

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    The best thing to do is to move to earth, where we can keep our electronics out in the open and they don't implode.
     
  17. gamer87

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    I just said: I have nothing hermetic or vacuum only a few sachets of silica gel to keep in these conditions what is the best thing to do?
    plastic bags are all the same because I used ziplock with silica inside and moisture always entered slowly and the worst thing is that this moisture would remain trapped inside the bag after the silica saturated
     
  18. bertus

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    Hello,

    We have several times told you how to use the silica gell and the plastic bags.

    Bertus
     
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    Do nothing. Especially don't ask us questions.
     
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