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Paul Burridge

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi all,

I met (inter alia) this ostensibly perfectly respectable young guy of
21 from Philadelphia whilst I was in Mexico last week. He told me he
got busted for drinking in his own (parents') house and dragged off
for several hours in jail on account of it!
As a Brit, I'm struggling to believe this. Can anyone in the US vouch
for such a - curious - story??
p.
 
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Boris Mohar

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi all,

I met (inter alia) this ostensibly perfectly respectable young guy of
21 from Philadelphia whilst I was in Mexico last week. He told me he
got busted for drinking in his own (parents') house and dragged off
for several hours in jail on account of it!
As a Brit, I'm struggling to believe this. Can anyone in the US vouch
for such a - curious - story??
p.

Was he mooning the traffic below?
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi all,

I met (inter alia) this ostensibly perfectly respectable young guy of
21 from Philadelphia whilst I was in Mexico last week. He told me he
got busted for drinking in his own (parents') house and dragged off
for several hours in jail on account of it!
As a Brit, I'm struggling to believe this. Can anyone in the US vouch
for such a - curious - story??
p.

21 is drinking-age-legal in ALL the states.

Unless, as someone else mentioned, he was "mooning" or doing some
other socially unacceptable act.

...Jim Thompson
 
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Fred Bloggs

Jan 1, 1970
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I met (inter alia) this ostensibly perfectly respectable young guy of
21 from Philadelphia whilst I was in Mexico last week. He told me he
got busted for drinking in his own (parents') house and dragged off
for several hours in jail on account of it!
As a Brit, I'm struggling to believe this. Can anyone in the US vouch
for such a - curious - story??
p.

This could have happened any number of ways: his parents called the
cops, or he was being unruly in some way such as yelling out the window
so as to disturb the peace, or making the wrong kind of phone calls, or
drinking on the front porch in public view, or something else. One thing
for certain is that there is much more to know than the fact of drinking
in his parents' house.
 
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Keith Williams

Jan 1, 1970
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Hi all,

I met (inter alia) this ostensibly perfectly respectable young guy of
21 from Philadelphia whilst I was in Mexico last week. He told me he
got busted for drinking in his own (parents') house and dragged off
for several hours in jail on account of it!
As a Brit, I'm struggling to believe this. Can anyone in the US vouch
for such a - curious - story??

Were he under 21 at the time he was busted, yes, I believe it. His
parents would likely be arrested for supplying a minor.
 
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Glen Walpert

Jan 1, 1970
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This could have happened any number of ways: his parents called the
cops, or he was being unruly in some way such as yelling out the window
so as to disturb the peace, or making the wrong kind of phone calls, or
drinking on the front porch in public view, or something else. One thing
for certain is that there is much more to know than the fact of drinking
in his parents' house.

I recall only one instance of this in 35 years as a PA resident, where
the parents allowed their underage kid to have a booze party in their
house with all his underage buddies on the "better here than somewhere
else" theory, the party got loud and rowdy, and neighbors called the
cops. It is otherwise pretty routine for parents to allow their
underage kids to drink at home here, such as a glass of wine with
dinner, and of course nobody cares and nobody gets arrested for
anything resembling responsible drinking at home regardless of age. In
this case, which made the news big time, it is likely that the wild
party would have only been given a warning except that the parents got
beligerent about insisting that they should be allowed to have wild
underage drinking parties in their home and refused to stop the party,
essentially forcing the police to stop it for them.

Now if you want something curious, how about the chap who told his
doctor he drank 6 beers a day, the doc reported it to the PA
Department of Motor Vehicles (reporting any medical condition which
could impair driving is required by law), and his drivers license was
permanantly revoked without any hearing despite a perfect driving
record. The same thing happened to someone else who told his doc he
ocassionally smokes a bit of pot. These stories also made the news
big time, so now no one admits to their doctor how much they drink or
if they use any illegal drugs.
 
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Mark Fergerson

Jan 1, 1970
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In the interest of completeness, I'll mention that the USA
goes quite overboard on some PC issues. Frinst Alcoholism Is Bad, and
anyone who allows a minor to partake is a Bad Person, and underage
drinkers must be Scared Straight. Yeesh.
Yep.

I recall only one instance of this in 35 years as a PA resident, where
the parents allowed their underage kid to have a booze party in their
house with all his underage buddies on the "better here than somewhere
else" theory, the party got loud and rowdy, and neighbors called the
cops. It is otherwise pretty routine for parents to allow their
underage kids to drink at home here, such as a glass of wine with
dinner, and of course nobody cares and nobody gets arrested for
anything resembling responsible drinking at home regardless of age. In
this case, which made the news big time, it is likely that the wild
party would have only been given a warning except that the parents got
beligerent about insisting that they should be allowed to have wild
underage drinking parties in their home and refused to stop the party,
essentially forcing the police to stop it for them.

My join-the-Air-Force-going-away party got pretty loud, and when the
cops rang the bell _I_ got to answer the door. When I yelled "cut the
music!" over my shoulder and got an instant response, then explained
what the party was for and promised to stop annoying the neighbors, the
cops ignored the open beers in plain view all over the room (not to
mention the thick pot fumes wafting through the doorway) and went away.

However I should mention that this was back in 1970 CA, and I'd had a
severe haircut to appease the recruiter...
Now if you want something curious, how about the chap who told his
doctor he drank 6 beers a day, the doc reported it to the PA
Department of Motor Vehicles (reporting any medical condition which
could impair driving is required by law), and his drivers license was
permanantly revoked without any hearing despite a perfect driving
record.

That's outrageous, but PC-ism is more prevalent on that end of the
country.
The same thing happened to someone else who told his doc he
ocassionally smokes a bit of pot. These stories also made the news
big time, so now no one admits to their doctor how much they drink or
if they use any illegal drugs.

I mentioned to my eye doctor last month that I "self-medicate" to
prevent glaucoma, and he winked at me and pretended not to understand. I
just love AZ.


Mark L. Fergerson
 
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Jim Thompson

Jan 1, 1970
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Glen said:
[snip]

Now if you want something curious, how about the chap who told his
doctor he drank 6 beers a day, the doc reported it to the PA
Department of Motor Vehicles (reporting any medical condition which
could impair driving is required by law), and his drivers license was
permanantly revoked without any hearing despite a perfect driving
record.

That's outrageous, but PC-ism is more prevalent on that end of the
country.

I don't know. Here in AZ 40 years ago it was perfectly alright to
take yours kids to an Italian restaurant and serve your own kids a
small glass of Chianti, no problem.

Try it now and you'll go to jail.

The PC crowd has done us in ;-(
I mentioned to my eye doctor last month that I "self-medicate" to
prevent glaucoma, and he winked at me and pretended not to understand. I
just love AZ.


Mark L. Fergerson

Careful with the bragging... Win might try to move here ;-)

...Jim Thompson
 
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Richard the Dreaded Libertarian

Jan 1, 1970
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The PC crowd has done us in ;-(

You fucking hypocrite!

Oh, wait. In order to be a hypocryte, you need to have ever
had actual values in the first place.

I wish you would apply some of your analog wizardry to real life. Maybe
divert a little to "common sense", maybe wonder, "What's really the
basis of "political correctness", other than to ensure that everyone
marches in lockstep to _your_ drummer?", that sort of thing.

Thanks,
Rich
 
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Tim Williams

Jan 1, 1970
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A post *supporting* political correctness, and the poster isn't drunk!?
What the ****?

Tim
 
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Mark Fergerson

Jan 1, 1970
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You fucking hypocrite!

What do you call someone who deliberately snips a perfectly logical
sequence of statements just so he can cuss someone out?
Here in AZ 40 years ago it was perfectly alright to
take yours kids to an Italian restaurant and serve your own kids a
small glass of Chianti, no problem.

Do you not see an implied acceptance of the practice of allowing
one's own child a small glass of Chianti in an Italian restaurant to go
along with the food? Is that not a "value"?
Try it now and you'll go to jail.

Do you observe that his "value" is now illegal due to a sweeping,
"zero-tolerance" redefinition of what constitutes "contributing to the
delinquency of a minor"?
The PC crowd has done us in ;-(

Aaaand, _who_ forced that redefinition?
Oh, wait. In order to be a hypocryte, you need to have ever
had actual values in the first place.

Now reread what Jim wrote; do you see your error?
I wish you would apply some of your analog wizardry to real life. Maybe
divert a little to "common sense", maybe wonder, "What's really the
basis of "political correctness", other than to ensure that everyone
marches in lockstep to _your_ drummer?", that sort of thing.

I wish you'd get that reactionary stick out of your ass once in a
while. But that'd require you to reject _your_ assumption that everyone
must march to the beat of _your_ favorite drummer, now wouldn't it?

You owe Jim an apology, asshole.


Mark L. Fergerson
 
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Mark Fergerson

Jan 1, 1970
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Tim said:
A post *supporting* political correctness, and the poster isn't drunk!?
What the ****?

What makes you think he isn't? He posted as "Rich Grise, but drunk"
in the thread "why does this newsgroup have beasts" an hour or so ago.


Mark L. Fergerson
 
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Tim Williams

Jan 1, 1970
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Mark Fergerson said:
What makes you think he isn't? He posted as "Rich Grise, but drunk"
in the thread "why does this newsgroup have beasts" an hour or so ago.

Hm, good point. Though "an hour or so ago" is 9pm, shortly after my reply,
which is another hour after the post I replied to. He could've gotten
soused inbetween...

I suppose it's up to Rich to tell, if he even remembers posting this evening
:)

Tim
 
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Fred Abse

Jan 1, 1970
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The PC crowd has done us in ;-(

I can remember a time when using the phrase "politically correct" would
get you labeled a communist.
 
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Keith Williams

Jan 1, 1970
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I can remember a time when using the phrase "politically correct" would
get you labeled a communist.

Where? The PC crowd *are* the communists.
 
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Spehro Pefhany

Jan 1, 1970
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Where? The PC crowd *are* the communists.

Actually, in English anyhow (I don't know for Italian), the emergence
of the term "politically correct" marked the beginning of the
backlash.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
 
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Keith Williams

Jan 1, 1970
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Actually, in English anyhow (I don't know for Italian), the emergence
of the term "politically correct" marked the beginning of the
backlash.

Agreed, but the "backlash" wasn't from the communists, it was
*against* the communists.
 
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